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Originally Posted by
krustus
HFO!!!... my man crush...lol...
this is spot on advise... don't always look at the compounds your running as your nutrition and weight program are more important... they must be in line to maximize the effects of the gear you are running. i have some buds that have never run anything but test and then not over 500mg a week and are jacked from hard work and eating good.
lol back at ya bro
an effective rotation of routines and an effective nutrition plan is key, gear is what supercharges it!
400mg tren, 400mg mast P, 450 prop per week for xx amount of weeks should you decide to try again is a great cycle and will yield awesome results.
Last edited by HFO3; 07-07-2013 at 05:38 AM.
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Originally Posted by
HFO3
lol
back at ya bro
an effective rotation of routines and an effective nutrition plan is key, gear is what supercharges it!
400mg tren, 400mg mast P, 450 prop per week for xx amount of weeks should you decide to try again is a great cycle and will yield awesome results.
too lite on the tren for my taste, but yeah....that should be yummy.
Fuck with me and I will start dating your daughter.
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I hate Tren. Did it twice and loved the results and hated the all the sides.....especially the insomnia. Sooooooooooo, its been a good 2-3 yrs but started 10 days ago. Only 50 mgs e/d but still get the insomnia and the Tren cough had me calling out to my sweety. Worst Tren cough Ive ever had! BUT....Im glad because that means its the shiat! Already starting to see a difference. There is no other like Tren!
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Guys look into mirtazapine for the insomnia.
I'm taking around 8-12mg of MIRTAZAPINE 30 mins before bed and have been sleeping a full 7 to 8 hrs. I've been taking it over 3 weeks and it had not lost it's effectiveness.
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I just got done wit tren an sus and not even halfway through my cycle i went from running 50mg eod to 75 ed and 1000mg of sus a week an the tren sweets were crazy along with no sleep not to mention it got to my breathing i had to back off a little but damn i love the results and the feeling
I live for this shit (Go Hard of go home)
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Originally Posted by
texson
what is your cycle history? and, when you ran the tren, what else, at what dose were you using?
at 400mg of E a week, that translates into 57mg ED. When you adjust for the 20% of the molecular weight that is actually the ester, that leaves you with about 46mg ED. Not really an impressive dose when you consider the minimum dose of tren is 35mg (lower than that and tren has no practical effect).
without knowing your cycle history, and assuming you have several under you belt, and the fact that 400mg of good tren a week really didn't produce much results, I would switch to acetate. start out at 75mg ED.
I would use a very basic cycle: tren / test. maybe 100mg of prop EOD. nothing else (so that you aren't confused by synergistic effects) so that you can get a real feel for what is happening. I have ran tren only cycles and have never been disappointed by the results, but tren does not aromitize, and, it inhibits estrodiol production in other ways as well, so you always need test in a tren cycle.
another cycle to try is: tren e 600-700mg EW with test E or C at 500mg EW. Jump start with prop or dbol for the first 4-5 weeks.
can't imagine you would be disappointed by the results.
either way, you need to figure the tren thing out for you personally or else you are missing out on the best AAS their is, and that would be ashame.
I agree with texson! My suggestion is to keep it in the arsenal as long as you can handle the sides. If you can't handle the side then its best to
take it out bro.
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Originally Posted by
gator-mclusky
I hate Tren. Did it twice and loved the results and hated the all the sides.....especially the insomnia. Sooooooooooo, its been a good 2-3 yrs but started 10 days ago. Only 50 mgs e/d but still get the insomnia and the Tren cough had me calling out to my sweety. Worst Tren cough Ive ever had! BUT....Im glad because that means its the shiat! Already starting to see a difference. There is no other like Tren!
Im the same way bro, loved the feel and what results i was seeing for running it such a short time. But i couldn't handle the sides just. I was thinking of running it again soon though!!! I was just running 50mgs EOD. Shit was strong i guess! I know it was cause i still get almost all my stuff from the same place!!!
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Cycle history
1st- test e 10weeks @500mgs/week
2nd- dbol kicker 40mg/day 1-4 weeks, test e @500mg/week 1-12weeks
3rd- test c @600mg week weeks 1-14 deca @300mgs weeks 1-10
4th- test c @600mg/week1-16 eq@750week 1-14winstrol 50mg/day 12-16
5th- test deca and eq
6th cycle- Tren e at 400mg 1-8 test e@ 300mg week 1-10 prop finisher 100mg eod 10-12
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Call me crazy but unless that sleep aid mentioned above works. Tren isn't worth only getting 3hrs a sleep a night.
Ill try Tren ace next round
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Originally Posted by
youngtricep98
Call me crazy but unless that sleep aid mentioned above works. Tren isn't worth only getting 3hrs a sleep a night.
Ill try Tren ace next round
Last year I was getting 3 or 4 hrs of sleep when I was on tren. I even had the doc prescribe me some sleep meds but that shit only work for a few days before I had insomnia again.
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