Should i give tren another chance?

**youngtricep98** · 07-06-2013, 05:42 PM

My experience with tren wasnt a "OMG this shit is amazing" one. i didnt get the results a lot of people get with it. the sides as far as insomnia really werent worth the reward of a few lbs of muscle. it affected the way i trained and with a shitty sleep schedule my recovery (in my opinion) was shit.

should i give it another chance? i ran it at 400mgs/week for 10 weeks did i not run enough? or should i just accept the fact that tren is just not worth being in my steroid arsenal.

anybody else have a less than spectacular experience with tren?

the quality was great. so theres no "bunk gear" excuse here.

**texson** · 07-06-2013, 05:59 PM

what is your cycle history? and, when you ran the tren, what else, at what dose were you using?

at 400mg of E a week, that translates into 57mg ED. When you adjust for the 20% of the molecular weight that is actually the ester, that leaves you with about 46mg ED. Not really an impressive dose when you consider the minimum dose of tren is 35mg (lower than that and tren has no practical effect).

without knowing your cycle history, and assuming you have several under you belt, and the fact that 400mg of good tren a week really didn't produce much results, I would switch to acetate. start out at 75mg ED.

I would use a very basic cycle: tren / test. maybe 100mg of prop EOD. nothing else (so that you aren't confused by synergistic effects) so that you can get a real feel for what is happening. I have ran tren only cycles and have never been disappointed by the results, but tren does not aromitize, and, it inhibits estrodiol production in other ways as well, so you always need test in a tren cycle.

another cycle to try is: tren e 600-700mg EW with test E or C at 500mg EW. Jump start with prop or dbol for the first 4-5 weeks.

can't imagine you would be disappointed by the results.

either way, you need to figure the tren thing out for you personally or else you are missing out on the best AAS their is, and that would be ashame.

**flyingfox272** · 07-06-2013, 06:05 PM

Great info ^^^^^^^
Best compound for me, the sides don't really hit as hard now compared to my first couple of runs. I love Tren E also just keep in mind that a larger ester means slightly less Tren.

i actually sleep like a baby on it now LOL and get really vivid dreams too.

**Georgiaboi87** · 07-06-2013, 06:05 PM

Personally i love tren i had my ups and downs with it as well i just came to find out i had to lower my dose but in my opinion i would always recommend giving it another chance.

**texson** · 07-06-2013, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by flyingfox272

Great info ^^^^^^^
Best compound for me, the sides don't really hit as hard now compared to my first couple of runs. I love Tren E also just keep in mind that a larger ester means slightly less Tren.

i actually sleep like a baby on it now LOL and get really vivid dreams too.

I firmly believe that if you use tren enough, you actually aclimate to it and the sides are a none issue. I can push it to 150 ED now and the only thing that still bothers me is the relentless, never ending, constant, annoying sweating.

**Jshredz** · 07-06-2013, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by texson

I firmly believe that if you use tren enough, you actually aclimate to it and the sides are a none issue. I can push it to 150 ED now and the only thing that still bothers me is the relentless, never ending, constant, annoying sweating.

Imo Sides def get better the more you use it..
Try running your tren higher than your test..
As far as insomnia ~8-12mg of MIRTAZAPINE 30 mins before bed has done wonders for my isomnia. Even if I wake up in the middle of the night I just close my eyes and I'm back to sleep no problem. .

**texson** · 07-06-2013, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by flyingfox272

and get really vivid dreams too.

tren dreams. they're a trip.

**tbonexl** · 07-06-2013, 07:25 PM

A nice sloppy bj always put me to sleep on tren. If I woke up, I would just get another one a pass out.. couldn't stop sweating while on it tho...

**texson** · 07-06-2013, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by youngtricep98

or should i just accept the fact that tren is just not worth being in my steroid arsenal

sheez. someone shoot this guy. slowly.

**HFO3** · 07-06-2013, 07:44 PM

My results with AAS, including tren even at low doses ALL comes down to our nutritional plan and effective training routines.
whether or not they are quality ones are your biggest factors.
did you follow them adequately? Or haphazardly run a cycle?
Did you track anything, your macros? including your results via measurements? Not weight.

The AAS dosages can be variables when it comes to results, but most likely not your issue when using 400mg per week of arguably the strongest known AAS.

I strongly disagree with taking over a gram of Tren per week.

A great recomp cycle is Tren A, prop, mast P