Thread: Next cycle. Cycle lengths

First off my stats. I am in my early 40s. I did my first cycle in my early 20s. I took off about 8yrs when I first got married and had little kids. Been back at it about 4yrs solid. I am 6ft3 weigh 295 right now. Started a cruise about 3wks ago lost a few pounds. I compete some in powerlifting. Strength is my main goal but I am slowly going towards BB or powerbuilding. One year ago I was fairly blown up and competed at 345bodyweight so I have leaned out alot in the last year. At 295 you can clearly see my top two abs on both sides and the sides of the bottom set. Still got a little flab in middle at the bottom. Im guessing 13-15%.
After I cruise and clean out I want to possibly do shorter cycles. I have stayed on way too long. I honestly feel like I make gains the first 6wks big time. By the 8-9th wk I get almost nothing. I feel like Im wasting it at that point. I always run test 800-1200 with deca or eq around 600. Or low dose tren a. Start with anadrol or dball. Normal stuff. I think I would be better off cycle 6-8wks cruise 5-8wks and start over. It seems like a reach a point and just cant get past it.
I want to run 1 19nor one test and one DHT base compound. I think Test, tren e, Mast E. Might try some Tboll to start. Dont want to run EQ because I want to stop at 8wks. Any thoughts?

Originally Posted by MuscleAddiction

Test P/Tren Ace/Mast P...short esters for 8 week blasts. Or since you are already on a cruise dose of Test bump that up and run the Tren Ace and Mast P...pin EOD those and Test E 2x EW.

Test P is my favorite test for sure. Do you do 8wk blasts? How long do you cruise between? I honestly feel I have used so much gear with no gains. Just a waste.

Originally Posted by MuscleAddiction

Test P/Tren Ace/Mast P...short esters for 8 week blasts. Or since you are already on a cruise dose of Test bump that up and run the Tren Ace and Mast P...pin EOD those and Test E 2x EW.

my thoughts exactly. short esters = shorter cycles, long esters = longer cycles.

Test Prop, NPP, and D-bol.

Originally Posted by flyingfox272

I'm 45 took a bunch of years off also to have my boys and been back training since last fall. I also notice a drop off in effectiveness of the drugs after a short while. Most of the problem for me is diet, we have to remember to raise our caloric intake on the blast. On my last blast I was actually getting leaner and dropping weight, I just was not eating enough for that amount of gear and training.
That said I think short blasts and then a short cruise is where it's at for me, I just started NPP, masteron, Dbol, and Drol as well as bumping up my test. Switch compounds often as well, our bodies get used to the drugs fast, especially if we've used the compound before.

FF, We have alot in common. I was also not eating enough. I was blasting and not gaining any weight, just getting leaner. I eat often and alot but the gear just raises your metabolic rate so high. I am also cruising on 250 test C and 250 deca which I wouldnt be using but I am having alot of joint pain from the last blast. I like the NPP,masteron Test. That covers all 3 catagories. I think I am done with anadrol it kills my bp and I feel like crap.

For 8 weeks if you are open to Tren go with either Test P or Test PP with Tren A and Mast P

dosing on the test can be low since it actually benefits the tren when Estrogen is not a factor, but thats up to you, test feels good at any dose

Id do the Tren A at 100 EOD or if you're up to it 50 to 60 ED and run that for the 8 weeks with the mast the same, good cycle you can bulk or cut on , Dbol kicker is cool, use extra AI since it converts to E very easily

Originally Posted by flyingfox272

I'm 45 took a bunch of years off also to have my boys and been back training since last fall. I also notice a drop off in effectiveness of the drugs after a short while. Most of the problem for me is diet, we have to remember to raise our caloric intake on the blast. On my last blast I was actually getting leaner and dropping weight, I just was not eating enough for that amount of gear and training.
That said I think short blasts and then a short cruise is where it's at for me, I just started NPP, masteron, Dbol, and Drol as well as bumping up my test. Switch compounds often as well, our bodies get used to the drugs fast, especially if we've used the compound before.

Sounds like a damn fun ride Fox, just make sure you are taking liver support and plenty of water with those 2 orals. Or are you running them at seperate times??