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    Thread: REAL TALK on half-lives

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      Cool REAL TALK on half-lives

      I've been read'n alot of threads that make me think that perhaps the functional, practical use of compound half-life may be misunderstood or just completely omitted. I also don't see many post'n bout orals and AI's half-life and their most effective uses. Also I've seen many plan'n cycles based on active -life instead of half-life which is basically a crap shoot when it comes to get'n max gains and keep'n them.


      An important consideration when plann'n a cycle at least to me, in particular the timing of dose'n to be administered, is the active half-life of the drug being employed. We can play the (t) game.The half-life may be defined as the time (t) the level is half of the start'n level of a given compound; at time 2t, the level is a quarter of the startn level, and at time 3t, the level is an eighth of the start'n level, and so on.

      This information is vital in the time'n of the dose'n when attempt'n to achieve a more stable blood concentration, which leads to greater overall results and maintenance of gains. Some fluctuations of concentration levels are acceptable, and are also mostly unavoidable, but should be kept to a minimum.

      This covers the half-life's of the most commonly used steroids, esters and ancillary compounds.

      Oral steroids

      Drug Active half-life
      Anadrol / Anapolan50 (oxymetholone) 8 to 9 hours
      Anavar (oxandrolone) 9 hours
      Dianabol (methandrostenolone, methandienone) 4.5 to 6 hours ( this is why Dbol is wasted unless it is dosed at least twice daily)
      Methyltestosterone 4 days
      Winstrol (stanozolol)
      (tablets or depot taken orally) 9 hours


      Steroid esters

      The half-life applies to the ester regardless of hormone attached, for example trenbolone enanthate and primobolan (methenolone enanthate) will act very similarly to testosterone enanthate in terms of release rate.

      Drug Active half-life
      Suspension within 1 hour
      Acetate 1 day
      Propionate 1 day
      Phenylpropionate 1-2 days
      Butyrate 2-3 days
      Valerate 3 days
      Hexanoate 3 days
      Caproate 4-5 days
      Isocaproate 4-5 days
      Heptanoate 5-6 days
      Enanthate 5-6 days
      Octanoate 6-7 days
      Cypionate 6-7 days
      Nonanoate 7 days
      Decanoate 7-8 days
      Undeclenate 8-9 days
      Undecanoate Approx 20 days but math says 19.3 to be exact and yes I am a geek. lol

      Ancillaries

      Drug Active half-life
      Arimidex 3 days
      Clenbuterol 1.5 days
      Clomid 5 days
      Cytadren 6 hours
      Ephedrine 6 hours
      T3 10 hours


      A practical example is if one was to inject 100mg of testosterone propionate and allow blood levels to peak. In approx 36 hours time (half-life duration from the above tables) and provide'n no other injections had taken place, the level would be reduced to 50mg. Again, a further approx 36 hours down the line and levels would have dropped to 25mg, and the value keeps halve'n every approx 36 hours.

      Take it for what it's worth. You may find it useful I hope. But what the hell would I know lol

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      i love this post , wat else do u need as a reference guide?

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      Spot on SMD! You studied this material and did the math....and look how well your last run went! Goes to show what the mind can do to the body when the mind is actually working. Real Talk!


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      I could use a detection time list. Need to know when to drop certain AAS so I don't piss positive in an Oly Meet.
      It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.


      DISCLAIMER: "BrotherIron" is a fictitious character with the sole purpose to entertain. Any information/advice given out, stated, or implied by "BrotherIron" is for entertainment purposes only & should not be considered the advocation of any illegal activity.



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      good information to know!

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      I had a ? on test p and i found the answer on the example you gave on your post. Very helpful.

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      Great post bub!!!

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      shouldn't there be some clarification between the active half-life of the hormone itself and the delay caused by the ester?

      100mg of test -e goes into your system on january 1st. BUT, the actual hormone isn't even active yet. it has to first make its way into the blood stream and be freed of the ester, correct? at THAT point, it becomes active. it would then be active for a few hours and then start dissipating, correct?

      so because the ester results in a delayed release of the testosterone hormone, the half-life is displayed as being 5-6 days but that would then make you assume that 5-6 after THAT the drug would be at 25%, but that makes no sense given what we know about the unesterified testosterone hormone.

      or is the calculation including the freeing of the ester, thus saying that typically at the 5-6 day mark half of the test you injected has been freed up.....?

      does my question make sense?

      Thanks in advance.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BrotherIron View Post
      I could use a detection time list. Need to know when to drop certain AAS so I don't piss positive in an Oly Meet.
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      Detection times

      Anavar ............................................3 weeks
      Anadrol........................................... ..2 months
      Andriol........................................... ...1 week
      Boldenone Undecyclenate...................4-5 months
      Clen.............................................. ...4-5 Days
      DBol ................................................5 weeks
      Deca ................................................18 months
      Ephedrin ...........................................4-5 Days
      Halo.............................................. ....2 months
      Methamphetamin ...............................6-10 Days
      Nandrolon Phenylprop ........................12 months
      Nilevar........................................... ....5-6 weeks
      Parabolan......................................... ..4-5 weeks
      Proviron.......................................... ...5 weeks
      Primo Depot.......................................4-5 weeks
      Sustanon ...........................................3 months
      Spiropent......................................... ...4-5 days
      Test cyp .............................................3 months
      Test enat ............................................3 months
      Test Prop.............................................2-3 weeks
      Trenbolon Acet ....................................4-5 weeks
      *Test supspenison No metabolites. t/e should be back to normal in days
      Equipoise......................................... ....4-5months
      Winny oral...........................................3 weeks .
      Winny inj.............................................2 months

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