Nandrolone for Lower Back Pain

**slash75cmd** · 01-03-2014, 05:39 AM

Question Bros: Has anyone used Nandrolone for lower back pain that was bone related? I've used NPP in the past and all I can remember is that it was great on my knees when I had been sprinting on grass, but I have some back issues from normal wear and tear. I'm close to asking my doc for a cortisol shot in my lower vertebrate, but I would rather see if I can oil the pain away.

Thanks for any input.

**kubes** · 01-03-2014, 01:19 PM

My biggest concern would be even if it does give some relief you may injure it worse and you realize it would just be temporary relief right? What kind of back injury are you dealing with? I have a lower back injury that was suppose to require surgery and I have found ways to work around the injury and avoid the surgery as well

**slash75cmd** · 01-11-2014, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by kubes

My biggest concern would be even if it does give some relief you may injure it worse and you realize it would just be temporary relief right? What kind of back injury are you dealing with? I have a lower back injury that was suppose to require surgery and I have found ways to work around the injury and avoid the surgery as well

It's lower and its more like compression pain, so to speak. Traction-like stretches help (hanging from a bar or over the side of a back extension machine) and gives relief. Hip stretches too help. I was trying to see if adding Deca offers some cushion for the vertebrae.

**kubes** · 01-11-2014, 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by slash75cmd

It's lower and its more like compression pain, so to speak. Traction-like stretches help (hanging from a bar or over the side of a back extension machine) and gives relief. Hip stretches too help. I was trying to see if adding Deca offers some cushion for the vertebrae.

I don't think it would. I have a real bad l5s1 almost no space left between the vertebrae. I did the physical therapy called the Mckenzie method press up and I was able to avoid surgery. I am in as good or better shape then before the injury too

**wombraider** · 01-11-2014, 01:46 AM

According to the McMerum Theorm when the lower vertebrae sets in a diffusion occurs the patient should to be able to well..umm..yea I'm full of shit

**Herc** · 01-11-2014, 02:51 AM

I say try it and see if it helps. That's the only way to really find out as everyone responds differently. It should hold some extra fluid in there and that might just be the hot ticket brother.

**Khem** · 01-11-2014, 04:04 AM

Yes. I'll write up why when I get to a computer.

**Khem** · 01-11-2014, 04:25 AM

Discs are comprised of essentially collagen, and such we get DDD, which is caused pretty much by collagen synthesis problems.. Collagen not only keeps your discs stable but also rebuilds, to what extent I have not studied, nor do I know if its been studied. I would err on the safe side and say it won't bring a disc to 100%, but any relief is going to be noticeable and beneficial.

Deca has been shown at 3mg/kg to increase Procollagen III (which is a measure of collagen synthesis) to nearly 270% by only WEEK TWO.

Equipoise at 3mg/kg has been shown to increase Procollagen III by 340% by week two. Though we know many have RBC issues on EQ...

I can't recall off the top of my head how much HGH did, but I know its high as well. I would venture to guess you don't need 3mg/kg, since these studies were measured at week 2.. So you will likely be fine running it less once it peaks.

Also, you should look into buying one of those things you see on TV.. The inversion tables by Roger Teeter. They're a little pricey but if you do it everyday you will think its a god send. The studies shown on inversion are pretty remarkable and honest to god they will dramatically effect your recovery and aid in decompression. For someone with a history of back problems, and even the aging or bodybuilding type, I would do it every day for life. There are more benefits to inversion and decompression than I could begin to tell you.

If you're on HRT/TRT, I would run your weekly dose of test, 150-200mg and add 200-300mg of Deca depending on your level of pain. You could always start higher and drop it with your pain level to the lowest effective dose. We don't want to take too much but we don't want to take too little, same as Test.

**slash75cmd** · 01-11-2014, 06:37 PM

@kubes: I'll take a look into the McKenzie technique. Physical therapy has been tried, but I found that I could do exercises/stretches/ice/heat on my own without the co-pay. Therapy still has it's merits though. Thanks.

**slash75cmd** · 01-11-2014, 06:45 PM

@khem: Good info and advice. Collagen reduction may be because of TRT in lower back (my bro-science theory) since test reduces collagen to some extent. That's why I'm leaning towards giving deca a shot. I will put your idea in motion as far as dosage and see what happens with along with Kube's advice.

Thanks Bro!