PCT

[JJR]

So been going back and forth with a few bros and I read a few different opinions on forums as to if pct is a must or not....

How many of you run pct and is the the same after each cycle or does in depend on what you used and how long you were on?

Personally Ive tried them after and have not used them after. I don't really get gyno to much no matter what I use , high test deca or tren can irritate my one nip. so when I do pct I notice I break out after more so then when I don't use it. Ive found that I like to ramp up the cycle meaning start low and work up and run at the target mgs, then I come off slow don't just stop completely , for me this works best I feel. and no pct.
I always keep some adex or armi on hand tho.

I think more guys are getting turned off pct they seem to cause more side then the aas do. One buddies endo told him not to use it at all either.
then other guys do blast cruise so they wont count in this poll. SOme guys may need a pct after if they got shut down and need a jumpstart to bring back levels.

[animal87]

Yes pct is a must ALWAYS. Unless you are to the age that you are on trt always pct.

I usually use clomid and armosin and run hcg@250mg 2x a week periodically through the cycle, unless it was a very harsh cycle I may add novla in too. On tren I will use caber and continue it through the pct.

[animal87]

Sample: Test 500mg/Deca 400mg

Come off the deca 3 weeks before pct. If you haven't already been useing hcg blast 500mg 3x a week last 2 weeks before pct. Start pct 2 weeks after last test injection.

1st day clomid 200mg armosin 25mg.
weeks 1 clomid 100mg armosin 12.5.
week 2 clomid 75mg armosin 12.5mg
week 3 clomid 50mg armosin 12.5mg
week 4 clomid 25mg armosin 12.5mg

It's just like everything else in this game. Some things will work for some and not for others. It has to be tweaked to each individual"s needs but that's a basic layout for a good pct.

[enrod]

The only true way to answer this question is with blood work.

Going on cycle shuts down LH production and elevates estrogen levels. These are bad things. PCTs are to combat those bad things.

[animal87]

Keep in mind the average male produces less than 1mg a day of testosterone. So it doesn't matter if you run 5000mg or 50mg a week. You will be shut down to some degree.

[kubes]

I always suggest running pct and running hcg during your cycle.

[JJR]

Keep in mind the average male produces less than 1mg a day of testosterone. So it doesn't matter if you run 5000mg or 50mg a week. You will be shut down to some degree.

this is truth here

[sensitivenips]

whats the common stereotype around using aas? you lose gains once you get off. this is mainly caused from the lack of a pct.

i pct every cycle, and cycle length is a dependent on whether i extend or even shorten the pct from the standard 4 week protocol.

there are reports showing that once a user has discontinued the use the length in time it takes for recovery (no pct) which is much longer than if one had pct'd. (i'll see if i can dig this one up and post later)

[kubes]

whats the common stereotype around using aas? you lose gains once you get off. this is mainly caused from the lack of a pct.

i pct every cycle, and cycle length is a dependent on whether i extend or even shorten the pct from the standard 4 week protocol.

there are reports showing that once a user has discontinued the use the length in time it takes for recovery (no pct) which is much longer than if one had pct'd. (i'll see if i can dig this one up and post later)

Running a proper pct and keeping your calories up will help hold on to gains. Also keep in mind if your are past your genetic limit gains are hard to hold onto as well

[JJR]

this is probley why more and more stay on longer and don't take time off. I think you got to come off tho