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    Thread: test/deca/tren cycle, anyone tried it?

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      test/deca/tren cycle, anyone tried it?

      I'm leaning to adding NPP to my low test high Tren A cycle.. I don't feel particularly comfortable with what I read of how mast works, and I think NPP adds more to my goals. I have zero prolactin issues in any cycle I've ever run, I'm not very concerned about that.

      What I'm more concerned about is if its even beneficial vs higher tren. I'm torn between adding NPP at an equivalent dose, or just upping the tren. Obviously they're different compounds so each cycle has its perks, and I'm wondering if anyone has run it, that can throw my decision one way or the other. Or am I crazy by not wanting to run test/tren/mast? fack.

      I think too much to decide sometimes.
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      I know you don't like caber but if your gonna run those together your gonna have to take something with it.

      If I was gonna do that I'd run the npp first then switch to tren.

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      Quote Originally Posted by animal87 View Post
      I know you don't like caber but if your gonna run those together your gonna have to take something with it.

      If I was gonna do that I'd run the npp first then switch to tren.
      I have caber on hand, always have. If I need it i'll use it, but I've taken quite a lot of deca and still have zero refractory period in bed. I feel like I am freakish with how my body handles prolactin. Just need to be freakish in size lol

      I'm really struggling to find my bread and butter. I don't have an extensive amount of experience with other compounds. I feel excellent using test/deca, and this low test, high tren feels decent but doesn't seem to produce the way I hoped. That isn't to say its sub par, I think its doing what tren has done for me before. I dislike the hit to my cardio with it as well.. I'm kind of thinking that I may be a deca guy, or that maybe adding them together is the key to the way I want to feel. I feel like I'm chasing the dragon a bit, and I know how fantastic deca makes me feel. Beastmode, hungry and well oiled machine, tons of strength.
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      Every one reacts different so I won't speak to the npp because I'm not a fan. I have run test/deca/tren and test/mast/tren. I'm a big tren fan and think its complimentary to any cycle. What is the ultimate goal for this cycle? NPP can be used to cut if that's the goal. I have had greatsuccess with mast/tren/prop and so has my buddy. We use a lot of peps super cuts blend. What is it about mast that you read that you didn't like?

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      I don't like the mechanism with which mast works. Its heavy DHT and that in itself brings a lot of side effects that I just don't see worth it in risk vs reward. My goal as a user is to limit my risk and maximize gains, therefore I avoid all orals because my BP skyrockets. It's risk vs reward I think.

      My ultimate goal is simply size, cutting will come from diet regardless of compound. Most importantly, I want to "Feel" perfect when I'm on. That A+ game feeling you get every fucking day. I feel pretty good on tren, but I'm just not quite feeling like everyday is a gaining day, if that makes sense. I don't go to the gym with that aggressive confidence, feeling excellent and ready to murder it. My cardio lacks and that might tire me out before I have the chance to push my lbs up each time, I'm not sure. I definitely feel stronger on deca. It's a big reason I was thinking mixing the two would be best, but I'm entirely uncertain.


      I think that what I might be slowly discovering is tren is a compromise and a bit of a let down vs how I react and feel on Deca/npp. I think as a last resort I was wanting to add it in and see if that was the magic key, but in my head I know that probably isn't going to be the case. Unless someone can tell me differently, I'm low on tren and might just cut it out..... sigh. It's not that it was a bad thing for me, I just didn't feel the magic that I feel when I run deca compounds. I truthfully get more and feel better out of LESS mg of deca. I think obviously this is an individualistic thing
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      Alot of guys I know run it like this:

      NPP-1-8 weeks
      Tren a-8-16 weeks.

      Lean size, then recomp and solidify the gains

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      I learned a valuable lesson with this low test / high tren cycle, it actually did eliminate nearly all side effects. It could not eliminate the hit to cardio, but that is because of the way tren effects the tissue in your esophagus/lungs ( also why we get tren cough).

      I will never raise my test again when running a cycle, if anything it allowed me to open my eyes to the possibilities. Mg for Mg I can be running a more effective cycle by pumping the androgens, and in theory should also reduce side effects. Any cycle from now on will be low test.

      I really think that I have settled on eliminating tren. As I re-read what I'm writing all signs point to deca being the drug my body likes. There's not a reason in the world to fuck with that, I think.

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      I know a few guys who have ran tren and deca together with AMAZING success. The ONLY reason I haven't tried it is im scared my dick will quit working even with caber Cialis and ample test lol The one was Mr. XXXXXXXXXX by where I live and would run a gram of each together and said it helped the tren be more effective and let him run the tren longer than just by itself. I haven't ran both together but I think we all search for synergy in cycles after our first couple where muscle just piles on. Test, dht based and 19-nor always thought one of each would give best gains at lowest possible doses...who knows and these are chemicals/medicines and we all react different.

      Sorry if I rambled but trying to offer some insight here Khem ha

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      test/deca I do feel the best on I think. But i like dbol and mast. in that cycle too.

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      How much tren you running now and how much test?

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