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      2nd cycle. Slight Gyno

      Hey bros of BOP, getting ready to do my second cycle here in a 6-8 weeks. Currently 198lbs but I'm holding water from ECY. I'm guessing 12-14%body fat. I will be cutting up until this cycle. To get as lean as possible to 195 or below while keeping strength. Goals for this cycle are to get stronger while staying around the 200lb mark, and to keep my strength up while incorporating lots of cardio into my routine. Before the beginning of 2014 I couldn't do cardio due to a bum leg, but had surgery last June.
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      365x10 and 410x3 squat belted, 315 for 10 beltless
      around 300 bench. It'd has gone down from 330 since I started cutting- goal is 4x20 at 225
      585 dead lift at 205 body weight (belted) but I'm sure it's dropped some
      Like I said my goal is to get stronger, but focus on my rep strength more than I did las cycle.

      So here's what I have planned:
      Super DMZ 2.0-2 caps weeks 1-4
      Tbol 60-80mg depending on how it hits me weeks 2-8
      Prop 75 or 100mg (?suggestions) EOD weeks 1-8
      clomid/nova pct. I prefer clomid at 50mg for 4-6 weeks instead of 100 or more the first week.
      i also have some liver support products but that just came with the DMZ idk how well they work if at all

      my question is that I currently have slight Gyno. Tried to rid it with Letro back in early 2014 with the common protocol and it didn't budge. Looks normal most of the time but you can tell if my nipples aren't erect. So, how should I dose my AI (aromasin) in my cycle to prevent Gyno from getting worse? 12.5 EOD into pct then taper off?

      Let me me know what you guys think.
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      Also what do you guys think about Eth at 300mg instead of prop, since test is basically there for a base with this cycle? Would like to pin 2x a week instead but the kick in time for ten makes it seem like a waste.

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      2nd cycle. Slight Gyno

      I didn't see the test dose listed in your post? Aromasin should be run Ed not eod. You should consider running rolaxafin for gyno reversal maybe before you start the cycle
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      Test dose 75mg-100mg eod prop. Or 300mg eth a week. I was under the impression that aromasin can be taken EOD because it works by inhibiting aromatase. What dose would you suggest ED 6.25?

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      Quote Originally Posted by SquatsandOats View Post
      Test dose 75mg-100mg eod prop. Or 300mg eth a week. I was under the impression that aromasin can be taken EOD because it works by inhibiting aromatase. What dose would you suggest ED 6.25?
      12.5 mg Ed to start out. It's almost impossible to crush estrogen using aromasin
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      Aite thanks Kubes. What do you think about the eth vs prop for this cycle. And aromasin through pct/ taper off in pct?

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      2nd cycle. Slight Gyno

      I don't see much reason to run the aromasin during pct as long as you kept the estrogen under control during you cycle you shouldn't have excess test converting to estrogen. I would drop the AI when pct starts and just use the serms for pct. For the test it's just a matter of how often you want to pin?
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      Thanks. As far as prop vs eth I've read over and over that eth is a waste for 8 week cycles due to kick in time. I don't see the problem if I'm using it more as a base though. Then There's the 2 weeks before pct instead of 4 days with prop. I'm just not sure if it will make a difference, as I'd rather pin 2x a week

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      2nd cycle. Slight Gyno

      Why not just extend your cycle to ten weeks then with the enanthate?
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      Haha I guess I could. Two extra weeks would give me time to get used to lack of orals before pct too. Thanks K I'll mull it over. I appreciate the quick replies

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