Im new to cycling and need some help

**fdetavor** · 06-01-2014, 01:22 AM

Hey guys, just to start ive only done one cycle of prohormone (m-drol) and am starting my first ever cycle of test. I about to start taking test cypionate and am thinking of running winstrol with it. Any thoughts on this? Also I could use some tips on safe injecting (needle size, plus do's and dont's would help a lot). Last but not least any recommendation on a sponsor to use? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

**rocky83** · 06-01-2014, 01:30 AM

Honestly a lot of guys would tell you to run just the test cyp on its own for your first cycle, but I really don't see the harm in throwing the winstrol in there. Just make sure you start out with low dosages for your first real cycle. I would start with around 350-400 mg of test a week and work up from there. As for the winstrol it all depends on the milligram per tab/pill, but I wouldn't go over 50 mg a day for my first go around. You can always adjust later into the cycle if you want to. It's easier to increase your dosage once you know how your body responds rather than taking to much and getting negative sides that won't subside for a few days to weeks. As for needles I used a 23 gauge that is 1 inch in length. You can go with 1 and a half inch, but I think 1 inch is enough. As for safe injecting sites the basic spots are glutes, deltoids, and quads. As for sponsors all of them on here are pretty solid. Just depends on if you want to go domestic or international.

**kubes** · 06-01-2014, 01:30 AM

All the sponsors are good brother. For your first cycle I would suggest test only for 12 weeks. That way if any sides arise they are easier to manage. Consider running or at least having an AI just in case and I am a big advocate of running hcg during your cycle as well. Last make sure you have your pct lined out before starting. As far as pins go keep everything sanitary use a 21 gauge or bigger to draw with and a 23-25 to pin

**rocky83** · 06-01-2014, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by kubes

All the sponsors are good brother. For your first cycle I would suggest test only for 12 weeks. That way if any sides arise they are easier to manage. Consider running or at least having an AI just in case and I am a big advocate of running hcg during your cycle as well. Last make sure you have your pct lined out before starting. As far as pins go keep everything sanitary use a 21 gauge or bigger to draw with and a 23-25 to pin

^^^^Kubes always on top of it!!! I did forget to mention having an AI on hand and having your pct lined up(clomid/tomaxifen).

**Dont wanna be old** · 06-01-2014, 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by fdetavor

Hey guys, just to start ive only done one cycle of prohormone (m-drol) and am starting my first ever cycle of test. I about to start taking test cypionate and am thinking of running winstrol with it. Any thoughts on this? Also I could use some tips on safe injecting (needle size, plus do's and dont's would help a lot). Last but not least any recommendation on a sponsor to use? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Can we have some back ground info ?
How often do you work out ?
Hows your diet ?
Age , weight & height ?
Goals ?

**Tekadori** · 06-01-2014, 01:56 AM

Looks like your at ground zero, but thats ok. Your asking questions reference pinning (thats giving yourself a shot) which is good. You can never be to careful and there are some good videos on the web to help you. However, before you get to pinning have you thought through how long your cycle will last? What dosage? What type of anti-estrogens to use? PCT (thats post cycle therapy to keep your natural test levels good and what to use based on your cycle)? I am sure your doing your homework and these are basic important questions. As far as cypionate and winny, sure its good, but it is dependent on your body stats and your expectations from the cycle. Welcome to the board and the brothers here will gladly help you through your journey. Once your journey/cycle is properly planned, just pick any sponsor on the board and your in good hands.

**Rooroo** · 06-01-2014, 01:59 AM

What ^^^they ^^^said..
Don't forget to take some good before pics and I would suggest keeping a journal as well . Believe it or not it's easy to forget details of cycles from years past when doing this for a while . Best of luck and remember you will get out of this what u put into it .

**fdetavor** · 06-01-2014, 02:17 AM

I'm 5'7. Before I started working out I was 300 lbs of pure fat. I lost down to 260 and started working out 5-6 times a week,eating decent, and taking my protein like I should. That was 3 years ago. I'm still around 260 but with a good bit of muscle. I plan on starting out small with 200 mg/week for 10 weeks and using win (50 mg/capsule) for 4 weeks in that cycle. It's low but I don't want to start out too high.

**fdetavor** · 06-01-2014, 02:20 AM

Oh and I'm 23 years old

**wook** · 06-01-2014, 02:37 AM

IMO, 200 mg/ week is too low. If I were you, I'd run 500, split twice a week for 10-12 weeks. I'd forget about the Winny this go around and just test the Cyp out... Doing it this way, you will know what Cyp does for you... Next cycle, run cyp with an oral and then you'll know how the oral helps you... Next cycle, add in some deca, etc... Always run an AI and have a PCT planned out and in hand before starting... IMO, you will benefit more and learn more about how your body reacts to the different substances... Too many 1st timers want to jump all the way in but it's not the correct way to do it! Good luck bro, I'd love to be 23 again!!!!