Athletic Performance...

**JudoGene** · 06-06-2014, 03:17 PM

I am 38, 5'9 185ish, I have done Sust and Deca in my hay day(early 30's). These days I am feeling like an old man an can't keep up with these young kids on the mats.

Any suggestions on a cycle; with the info that i gave you, that would be great for athletic performance? I am not really wanting to add mass, but maybe add some strength speed and cutting some weight would be perfect. Any tips would help I did happen to get my hands on about 200iu of blue caps. i know that i may need to double that but hey, it's a great starting point.

**kubes** · 06-06-2014, 03:24 PM

Start out with a standard test e or c cycle 500 mg ew for 12 weeks. I would suggest running hcg and an AI alongside. Make sure to have everything you will need including pct before you start

**TheTrain** · 06-06-2014, 03:30 PM

I think sus and eq would be great. Run 16 weeks, along with hcg and an extremely low dose AI possibly as mentioned by Kubes above.
Historically primo, winstrol and eq have been the main athletic used AAS

**JudoGene** · 06-06-2014, 03:48 PM

On another site, one that shall not be named... I had mentioned EQ or bold and their input was that it simply doesn't work according to most recent data. I have always like it but the stuff I use to get in Mexico was a "pain in the ass" because of all the shots. Would you run the AI & HCG starting on week 1 or start somewhere in the middle like wk 6 or 8?

Thanks for the Info you guys are awesome...

**cowboy up** · 06-06-2014, 04:10 PM

AI should start at the beginning and depending on how prone you are to sides will determine the amount. Usually.25-.5 EOD with adex which is what I use. Personally I run it .5 every 3rd day but have never really had any sides. Everyone is different and you can adjust accordingly. I'm still fairly new using hcg so 1 of the other brothers will be able to give you better advice. Mass, strength and speed gains will depend on your training and diet as with all cycles. Kubes suggestion would be the best way to ease back into the gear and still would give you good results.

**kubes** · 06-06-2014, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by JudoGene

On another site, one that shall not be named... I had mentioned EQ or bold and their input was that it simply doesn't work according to most recent data. I have always like it but the stuff I use to get in Mexico was a "pain in the ass" because of all the shots. Would you run the AI & HCG starting on week 1 or start somewhere in the middle like wk 6 or 8?

Thanks for the Info you guys are awesome...

You can start the hcg right away during the first week to maintain testicular function during your cycle. Lower dosing of hcg is better In my opinion with less risk of desensitizing the ledig cells. 200-250 iu 2xew should be enough. As far as an AI is concerned aromasin or Adex are both good choices. Aromasin at 12.5 mg Ed or Adex at .25 mg eod are both good starting doses and adjust from there as needed

**JudoGene** · 06-06-2014, 08:45 PM

Thank you very much... will make an order Monday... now, so many to choose from. Message me for suggestions. thanks brothers

**TheTrain** · 06-06-2014, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by JudoGene

On another site, one that shall not be named... I had mentioned EQ or bold and their input was that it simply doesn't work according to most recent data. I have always like it but the stuff I use to get in Mexico was a "pain in the ass" because of all the shots. Would you run the AI & HCG starting on week 1 or start somewhere in the middle like wk 6 or 8?

Thanks for the Info you guys are awesome...

Yes 50mg/ml EQ sucked lol But I can tell you if you've ever ran EQ it works. ive ran EQ only cycles as well and next to tren nothing else has ever give me the super vascular look and added to atheletic ability. Now I go for just look so tren it is. But I still use eq as well. Like mentioned above EVERYONE is different, unless you want to stick with basic, which basic works best. You said you've already tried deca as well, I think youd be happy with eq if your tyring to keep up with the Young Bucks! lol
Im only 29 but that's my 2 cents

**rocky83** · 06-06-2014, 10:42 PM

Basic a lot of the time is the best way to go!

**JudoGene** · 06-06-2014, 10:53 PM

Nice!!! Writing out my plan now. 16wks of test e 500 & EQ at 300? HCG 250iu 2Xwk; Adex 0.25mg Eod... Sound good?

Hahaha I was going to ask about tren... There is always next cycle right? So this sounds pretty basic to get me back in the saddle. Next time maybe I can use some of my blue caps I have on hand, but I may need more only have 2 kits