Sub Q injections for testosterone

[Bobby38]

Hey brother. I came across this article about it “possibly “ being better to use subQ for absorption. Not that much info but wondering if anyone has any thought/do it etc. I did a search and didn’t find anything on the board. If it’s on hear somewhere please direct me to it. Thanks

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20 Percent More Bang

When T Nation first launched way back in 1998, getting your doctor to prescribe testosterone to you was tricky. Luckily most docs are up to speed these days on testosterone-replacement therapy (TRT). Heck, you can even find "low T" centers at your local strip mall and see commercials for testosterone in prime time.
Today you have the choice of injections, gels, creams, or pellets in treating low T. However, testosterone injections give you the most bang for your buck. And now, a new method may give you 20% extra bang for the very same buck. It's called subcutaneous or "subQ" injection.
Inject Into Fat, Not MuscleIf you've been on TRT for any length of time, it's likely your glutes are so scarred up from years of intramuscular (IM) injections that they're starting to resemble a piece of leftover gristle from the Sunday pot roast.
It's also quite likely those intramuscular injections are causing the occasional painful inflammatory response, in addition to needlessly spiking your estrogen levels. The safer, simpler, and perhaps even more effective way to administer testosterone is into the fatty layer just under the skin, otherwise known as a subcutaneous injection.
Dr. John Crisler, of the All Things Male Center for Health, has played a huge role in popularizing the subQ method.


Dr. John Crisler, SubQ Injection Demonstration

Why SubQ Better

1. Going under the skin saves you from approximately 500 potentially damaging intramuscular injections every decade.
2. Injecting your testosterone subcutaneously involves the use of a small gauge needle (25 gauge half-inch, or 26 gauge 3/8 inch if you're very lean), thus making it feasible to give yourself two injections per week, which allows for a more even and natural testosterone profile.
3. Since you're injecting two times a week, the testosterone is more smoothly metabolized and might even bring estrogen levels down.
4. Dr. Crisler believes this method gives you more bang for your testosterone buck. He says that 80 mg of subQ testosterone has the effect of a 100 mg of testosterone administered intramuscularly.
5. You can use the same needle to fill your syringe and administer the dose.
6. Since there's no danger of puncturing a vein, there's no need to aspirate when you go subQ.

How You Do It

1. Buy yourself some 25 gauge 5/8-inch needles or 26 gauge 3/8-inch needles (if you're very lean) and some 1 cc syringes. There are several diabetes care websites that ship direct to the customer. If you're getting them from your ********, you can ask for tuberculin (TB) syringes that are designed for small subcutaneous doses and make it easy to inject oily testosterone.
2. Split your normal weekly dosage into two equal doses. In other words, if you normally inject 200 mg. IM, inject 100 mg. twice a week. If your doctor has you using 100 mg. weekly, inject 50 mg. on Wednesday and 50 mg. Saturday for example.
3. Wipe the top of the bottle of testosterone ester with an alcohol swab as you would for IM administration.
4. Draw up the testosterone in the pre-determined dosage and simply "dart" the needle into the fat pad on your abdomen, the "love handles," or buttocks. Do not try to squeeze or pinch the fatty area. The short needle will insure the magic juice isn't entering muscle tissue. Inject slowly.
5. Feel awesome.

[Liftpower23]

I've done test & tren subQ. In small doses (<.20mL) it's fine and barely noticeable. Pin SLOWWWW and massage afterwards. The tren stings like a goddamn bee sting though... I didn't notice a benefit, plus I pin with a 29g x 1/2" slin pin, so I just do IM shots daily.

[Damnwideback90]

Hey brother. I came across this article about it “possibly “ being better to use subQ for absorption. Not that much info but wondering if anyone has any thought/do it etc. I did a search and didn’t find anything on the board. If it’s on hear somewhere please direct me to it. Thanks

the link wouldn’t copy. Here’s the article::

20 Percent More Bang

When T Nation first launched way back in 1998, getting your doctor to prescribe testosterone to you was tricky. Luckily most docs are up to speed these days on testosterone-replacement therapy (TRT). Heck, you can even find "low T" centers at your local strip mall and see commercials for testosterone in prime time.
Today you have the choice of injections, gels, creams, or pellets in treating low T. However, testosterone injections give you the most bang for your buck. And now, a new method may give you 20% extra bang for the very same buck. It's called subcutaneous or "subQ" injection.
Inject Into Fat, Not MuscleIf you've been on TRT for any length of time, it's likely your glutes are so scarred up from years of intramuscular (IM) injections that they're starting to resemble a piece of leftover gristle from the Sunday pot roast.
It's also quite likely those intramuscular injections are causing the occasional painful inflammatory response, in addition to needlessly spiking your estrogen levels. The safer, simpler, and perhaps even more effective way to administer testosterone is into the fatty layer just under the skin, otherwise known as a subcutaneous injection.
Dr. John Crisler, of the All Things Male Center for Health, has played a huge role in popularizing the subQ method.


Dr. John Crisler, SubQ Injection Demonstration

Why SubQ Better

1. Going under the skin saves you from approximately 500 potentially damaging intramuscular injections every decade.
2. Injecting your testosterone subcutaneously involves the use of a small gauge needle (25 gauge half-inch, or 26 gauge 3/8 inch if you're very lean), thus making it feasible to give yourself two injections per week, which allows for a more even and natural testosterone profile.
3. Since you're injecting two times a week, the testosterone is more smoothly metabolized and might even bring estrogen levels down.
4. Dr. Crisler believes this method gives you more bang for your testosterone buck. He says that 80 mg of subQ testosterone has the effect of a 100 mg of testosterone administered intramuscularly.
5. You can use the same needle to fill your syringe and administer the dose.
6. Since there's no danger of puncturing a vein, there's no need to aspirate when you go subQ.

How You Do It

1. Buy yourself some 25 gauge 5/8-inch needles or 26 gauge 3/8-inch needles (if you're very lean) and some 1 cc syringes. There are several diabetes care websites that ship direct to the customer. If you're getting them from your ********, you can ask for tuberculin (TB) syringes that are designed for small subcutaneous doses and make it easy to inject oily testosterone.
2. Split your normal weekly dosage into two equal doses. In other words, if you normally inject 200 mg. IM, inject 100 mg. twice a week. If your doctor has you using 100 mg. weekly, inject 50 mg. on Wednesday and 50 mg. Saturday for example.
3. Wipe the top of the bottle of testosterone ester with an alcohol swab as you would for IM administration.
4. Draw up the testosterone in the pre-determined dosage and simply "dart" the needle into the fat pad on your abdomen, the "love handles," or buttocks. Do not try to squeeze or pinch the fatty area. The short needle will insure the magic juice isn't entering muscle tissue. Inject slowly.
5. Feel awesome.

Nice read. I just recently started pining with 29g x 1/2inch. So far so good. I used to do 25g x 1inch. Tired of being a pin cushion. Thanks for the info

[Jetblack14316]

I’m not sure I pin sub-q but I pin delts and quads with backloaded 29g 1/2” slin pins. I did bloods several times for anecdotal reasons to see if my serums were different and I didn’t notice a damn thing except less pain. I pinned NPP, sust, cyp, tren, and a Tren/T-Prop mix with no issues. All MCT though, not sure GSO would be as smooth.

Just trial and error for each person, doing actual lab work and listening to your body. I know some guys saw legitimate drops in their blood work and didn’t like how it made them feel.

To each their own.


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[Damnwideback90]

I’m not sure I pin sub-q but I pin delts and quads with backloaded 29g 1/2” slin pins. I did bloods several times for anecdotal reasons to see if my serums were different and I didn’t notice a damn thing except less pain. I pinned NPP, sust, cyp, tren, and a Tren/T-Prop mix with no issues. All MCT though, not sure GSO would be as smooth.

Just trial and error for each person, doing actual lab work and listening to your body. I know some guys saw legitimate drops in their blood work and didn’t like how it made them feel.

To each their own.


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Yeah i was skeptical of how my bloods would look pining half inch in my delt and quad. I got bloods right before the switch. Thanks for the info my man

[Jetblack14316]

Yeah i was skeptical of how my bloods would look pining half inch in my delt and quad. I got bloods right before the switch. Thanks for the info my man

Then just do it, listen to your body, and get bloods again. If they are altered they won’t be so off that you completely fucked yourself you know? I don’t think it’s that serious of thing and more preference. Good luck bro


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[oceanie]

Anyone knows how subq works with high dosage gear (500mg/ml)? Any issue?