Short esters/ Long esters

**parabellum** · 07-17-2014, 11:24 AM

Had a conversation with a friend of mine... haven't seen him in about 3-4 weeks, busy lives like all people.
Made s comment to me " treat your long esters like short esters"
Meaning frequently injecting, a bit smaller amounts.... ect
comments? Thoughts?
Love to hear the knowledge from you all

**Clark Kent** · 07-17-2014, 11:36 AM

It will keep your blood levels a bit more stable but the whole point of the long ester is so you dont have the injection frequency. If your going to treat them like short esters, just do short esters, why not? You will have much quicker results, can run shorter cycles and wont have the estrogen issues? Just my 2 cents!

**kubes** · 07-17-2014, 12:13 PM

The only reason I would treat my long ester like short would be to avoid sides. Like Clark said it defeats the entire point of running the long ester. If you want to pin often just run a short ester

**Dont wanna be old** · 07-17-2014, 12:24 PM

Devils advocate here .
What if body absorbed a pea size depot better than a marble size depot ?

**Joebad1** · 07-17-2014, 01:03 PM

Like most have said it's all about getting least sides I would say the main reason for this..maybe less oil as you can get higher Mgs in long ester I would like to hear some more on this also.

**enrod** · 07-17-2014, 01:17 PM

I'm a fan of the longer esters myself. Call it bro science, but I think there is something to be said about stability in the blood levels and chemical half-life.

This may not be true for you, but I respond with less sides using longer esters shot like longer esters. Only reason I'd have to pin more than twice a week is using high doses.

As far as a larger depot absorbing, that may be true. I think the slower absorption would be an easier transition for the body to adapt too (less radical response). All just my logic here, not science.

**wook** · 07-17-2014, 01:34 PM

Front load long esters and shoot twice a week... Simple!

**Freedom** · 07-17-2014, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by enrod

I'm a fan of the longer esters myself. Call it bro science, but I think there is something to be said about stability in the blood levels and chemical half-life.

This may not be true for you, but I respond with less sides using longer esters shot like longer esters. Only reason I'd have to pin more than twice a week is using high doses.

As far as a larger depot absorbing, that may be true. I think the slower absorption would be an easier transition for the body to adapt too (less radical response). All just my logic here, not science.

I am just the opposite. Just goes to show you have to take the journey to find out what works for you.

Short ester compounds were the answer to eliminating 80% of my battle with the negitive sides of hormone therapy. Most noteibly acne on the back and shoulder area, some bloat and large skin pores from the oily temperment of testosterone and its derivative cousins.

It took me a few years to work up the mentality to inject every other day but I have not looked back.

**Freedom** · 07-17-2014, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Joebad1

Like most have said it's all about getting least sides I would say the main reason for this..maybe less oil as you can get higher Mgs in long ester I would like to hear some more on this also.

Less mass injected per mg in a regiment with this mindset. So less scar tissue over time as well

**rocky83** · 07-17-2014, 02:31 PM

Call me a juice head, but I like them both LOL, but I only need to inject twice a week with long esters and take an AI and have very minimal if any at all sides.