Thread: My first cycle need help

Originally Posted by F33ltheburn

Ok thanks a lot bros , I'll just do the test e , I don't know what an ai is thoe everywhere I read said my pct is fine and tht all I need so if u guys can gimme scientific names like nolvadex is tamoxifen citrate so I know what else to get

We will help learn u lol

Originally Posted by F33ltheburn

Ok thanks a lot bros , I'll just do the test e , I don't know what an ai is thoe everywhere I read said my pct is fine and tht all I need so if u guys can gimme scientific names like nolvadex is tamoxifen citrate so I know what else to get

^^^Adex or Aromisin are AI's for your test only cycle. 12.5mg every day for aromisin or .25mg every other day with adex. Hope that helps.

For an ai I was gona buy anastrozole how many mg a day ?

And to let you guys know I'm using legend pharmaceuticals to do all my shopping so if you guys wana take a look and recommend something

Hey bro. I'm running a log over in the training log section. You might want to check it out. I'm in week 4 of my first ever cycle, all from Legend. Very happy so far....read through and you'll see what I'm doing and where I've run into questions....

Very similar to what you're gonna do...

Originally Posted by F33ltheburn

For my first cycle I was going to do test e and deca , 500mg a week, a lot of people are telling me to just do test e since it's my first time , I wana know wht you guys think

my pct is nolvadex 40/40/20/20/10/10 and 500iu hug ed for 10 days

I can tell you something that is happening RIGHT NOW that may change your mind about this cycle... so ive gotten drastically smaller due to a lot of shit but last year I was 6'1" 230 single digit BF, my friends were all fascinated by this. They saw me shrink back down (took a LONG time off training gear and eating due to a life event but always "looked like I lift") and over the past few months have seen me going really hard blowing back up and they know I just got back on AAS. Due to muscle memory I think, I am gaining way faster than one of my friends. He decided he wants to "keep up" with me and has got a great natty build, so we talked about his first cycle I steered him to some good research and he read a SHITLOAD. I always told him, tbol kickstart is the only thing I'd think was cool to add if he just had to add something to 300mg x2 weekly test C 12 weeks. He decided I will blow past him if he is "only" on test.
He ordered test phenylprop, trenbolone acetate, mast prop, when he told me this I said good luck man but I am done dealing with you, I felt disrespected by going against everything (I wrote his training program and helped w/diet). He has now been on three weeks, he calls me, his nipples are sensitive and leaking. He says he is going to order nolva, I tell him if this is tren's fault nolva will make it worse due to progesterone upregulation (this is how it relates to your cycle, nandrolone is in the same family as tren!), but if it is the test something like nolva with his AI can actually help tremendously. He had thought the mast would be strong enough to suppress any elevated estro (at 50mg eod LOL), so he dropped the test dose hopped on the nolva and added his aromasin. His nipples stop leaking now apparently (as of monday) and thinks yes this is the nolva I am fine I will stay on tren and be a jacked and tan badass but his libido is tanking. I tell him hold on, your crushing your estro which could be killing your libido, or youre too sensitive to tren in that regard, but you dont know the feeling of test alone so you dont know how to differentiate. So now he is asking if he needs caber, I tell him, WE DONT KNOW YOURE A MESS. We dont know what is causing your gyno, or your low libido, you need to come off. As of today he simply dropped the nolva and aroma..... not the gear. Do you see how this story illustrates why beyond just the simple fact you can DO ANYTHING ON TEST, and your newbie gains are going to be unbelievable and likely the same without the deca, you could get in a situation like him and be a total shit show (oh yea he has weird acne covering his scalp! mast? maybe, but we cant know!!!) without the ability to fix it based on experience.
I know this is long winded however this is something happening as we speak bro, and his doses are low! 50mg test pp 30mg tren A 25mg mast p ED. now his doses are all over the place based on what theory he comes up with that day... but bro test only 12 weeks (I really really think 12 weeks is so much better than 10 for a first cycle with almost zero additional risk.) you will be amazed!!! You trying to gain quality mass? If its going well up to week 8 I think tbol for the last 4 can be added, but I know a lot of guys with disagree with me. Dont run the HCG into PCT, do as Kubes said above, 250iu e3d/2x wk, but I start week 3/4, until last week before PCT I would do 2/3 shots of 500iu then done with HCG, transition to your nolva PCT, but thats just me. And are you dead set on nolva? Read a ton about the various options bro their are huge up and down sides to everything.

I would do just test-e first brother.