My first cycle need help

**F33ltheburn** · 08-04-2014, 06:18 AM

For my first cycle I was going to do test e and deca , 500mg a week, a lot of people are telling me to just do test e since it's my first time , I wana know wht you guys think

my pct is nolvadex 40/40/20/20/10/10 and 500iu hug ed for 10 days

**kubes** · 08-04-2014, 12:19 PM

I suggest running test for your first cycle otherwise if you get any sides you won't know which compound is causing them. I would run the hcg during your cycle as well. 250 iu 2xew. Run an ai either aromasin at 12.5 mg Ed or Adex at .25 mg eod to start out and adjust as needed

**cowboy up** · 08-04-2014, 01:44 PM

^^^ Bump this! Listen to Kubes he'll get you going in the right direction!

**Dont wanna be old** · 08-04-2014, 01:48 PM

Your first cycle is more than likely gonna be the best one you'll ever run .
It will have the most gains with least amount of AAS .
No need for extra compounds or complications .
Stick with Test and enjoy .
DWBO

**wook** · 08-04-2014, 02:32 PM

Kubes is right, stick to a Test only cycle at 500 mgs /week (pinning 2x/week). Reason being, you will be able to see for yourself what effects this compound has on your body. Then the next cycle, since you know what to expect from the test, you can add in an additional compound (like a deca) and be able to tell exactly how that compound reacts with your body. Next cycle, drop the deca and try a different substance.... ETC ETC. This is the BEST way to do things. I also suggest running an AI (like adex .25 eod) and your pct looks fine. Just remember that more is not always better! Good luck!

**Rooroo** · 08-04-2014, 04:19 PM

DWBO makes a solid point when he said you will get the most gains with the least amount of AAS . My first cycle consisted of a measly 200 mg's of upjohn test Cyp for 10 weeks . Nothing more than a trt dose and I gained 12 -15 lbs and my strength increased dramatically .
Now I would never advise anyone to run that low of a dose and at the time I just didn't know any better but I still made crazy gains like I hadn't seen before or after . Stick with test only and you will be a happy camper in a few weeks .

**Mz1220** · 08-04-2014, 06:48 PM

^^^^My first cycle was the same 200 test e a week and I gained bout 25lbs. I personally didn't use an ai on my first cycle my test dose was pretty low too but I had no problems with sides. Imo I'd stick with 500 test without the deca should be golden. Keep reading and getting more info everyone's different so you'll have to see for yourself what works best for you.

**Largerthannormal** · 08-04-2014, 07:57 PM

x 2 for kubes! keep her simple!

**rocky83** · 08-04-2014, 11:20 PM

All great advice from the brothers! First let me say that I agree with the info given in prior posts 100%. I do think you should stick with a test only cycle, but if you are hell bent on running deca then make sure you have caber on hand. You don't want to make a mistake of not having your proper AI's. Make sure you have those angles covered. That is a huge reason why many are suggesting you run test only cycle first. Who knows. Your body may possibly be extremely sensitive to AAS and you get negative sides from test alone and then you throw deca in the mix and have a whole other mess of problems. That is why it is important to build on your AAS cycles and knowledge like building blocks. Have a good strong foundation before you start stacking up.

**F33ltheburn** · 08-05-2014, 03:29 AM

Ok thanks a lot bros , I'll just do the test e , I don't know what an ai is thoe everywhere I read said my pct is fine and tht all I need so if u guys can gimme scientific names like nolvadex is tamoxifen citrate so I know what else to get