Hey fellas,
I'm 4 weeks into a Prop and NPP cycle @ 600mg/wk each. I'm looking to bump it up to 800mg/wk each.
1) When will I notice the effect of this dose increase? In 2 weeks time (as is the general "kick in time" of NPP/Prop)? Does the length of the ester matter?
Thanks a lot guys!
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You should run the prop twice as high as the NPP . NPP can give you erectile dysfunction which can be helped with a higher dose of test. Also you should start feeling the effects of the increased dose within a few days because they are both short estered steroids. I'm doing pretty much the same cycle right now
You don't have to run the test at twice the dose to avoid the sides if npp. You just have to manage your sides with ancillaries. Either aromasin arimidex as an ai and caber or prami if needed for the sides of the npp.
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This. Very rare that npp will cause erectile dysfunction.Originally Posted by kubes
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You want to bump up you dose to 800mg? That seems to me a little to much short ester compounds to run @ such a high dose,especially the deca.I wouldnt recommend it.Increasing your doseage might not necessaraly be the right thing to do.If your not getting the results you want from what your taking now,look at your whole routine.Is your diet & workouts in check?I would pick up the intensity a notch in the gym.push your lifts to failure.go over your diet.are you taking in enough protein?Anabolic's will only take you so far,You have to do the rest.
Last edited by toppjimie; 09-19-2014 at 02:35 PM.
No you don't have to, I've always avoided sides plus made better gains doing 2:1 test to NPP
You should run the prop twice as high as the NPP . NPP can give you erectile dysfunction which can be helped with a higher dose of test. Also you should start feeling the effects of the increased dose within a few days because they are both short estered steroids. I'm doing pretty much the same cycle right now
not true, as long as you dose even as little as trt dose he would be fine.
npp should not cause ED either, That is a different issue you are thinking of but as long as he runs an AI and does a proper PCT and recovers well he should be okay
What are your stats brother, 800 is quite alot.
The best advice I can give you is more is not always better, in many cases it can be worse!
you would have better success in quick changes on the food you eat and keeping dosage the same, I will guarantee you that. Gains are made from food it is very simple. You need to eat in relation to your objective
and yes NPP and prop are short esters , they will " kick in very fast " in terms of raising your levels. As far as visible effects it may take 2-3 weeks, depends on how you eat
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Nandrolone Phenylpropionate is a good drug, but it is not perfect. With its chemical structure it acts directly on the receptor of the female sex hormone progesterone with a binding rate of 20% of the actual hormone (14). Despite its low aromatizing rate, this can lead to breast growth in gyno-prone individuals. There is no need for panic though, because the drugs letrozole (femera) or fulvestrant can easily combat this (15) reaction. Elevated prolactin levels are also a side effect of nandrolone usage, but there are readily available drugs like bromocriptine and cabergoline that activate the dopamine receptor to lower prolactin levels (5). Shrunken balls (testicular atrophy) may be a problem from elevated prolactin as well; HCG (female hormone that acts like LH when introduced into the male body) used during the cycle can possibly remedy or prevent the condition (16). Probably the worst effect Nandrolone Phenylpropionate has is on natural testosterone production: a single 100mg dose of nandrolone causes complete nullification of testosterone levels, which remained suppressed for a month before returning to normal (see chart). This can cause impotence and loss of sex drive, better known as the dreaded "Deca dick." The best solution to this problem is to always use testosterone with nandrolone.
Last two sentences are pretty much why I run my test much higher than my NPPWhat are your stats brother, 800 is quite alot.
The best advice I can give you is more is not always better, in many cases it can be worse!
you would have better success in quick changes on the food you eat and keeping dosage the same, I will guarantee you that. Gains are made from food it is very simple. You need to eat in relation to your objective
and yes NPP and prop are short esters , they will " kick in very fast " in terms of raising your levels. As far as visible effects it may take 2-3 weeks, depends on how you eat
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