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      Cruise with master and test

      I've been cruising on 100mg test E fro about a month and been feeling pretty bad. Was planning on adding a litter mast p to my cruise hope it helps with my mental state

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      How about upping your test instead of trying a dht? Like 200 or 250mg a week?

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      I've done that in the past while cruising and always felt good on it. i found that from a libido point of view I would take 100/100 test/mast over 200 of just test. Another option that I'm a fan of is adding 25-50 mg of proviron a day to a cruise dose of test.

      Or like it was already mentioned maybe your test dose is just to low for you or maybe you're not taking as much as you think you are (underdosed).

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      Cruise with master and test

      If your on a cruise I would just up the dose of your test
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      Damn, there isn't anyone else who likes to use a low dose of dht with their test on a cruise? I know there's the concern of the prostate but it seems like the recent research is kind of pointing to estrogen as the culprit with prostate cancer. Maybe I'm way off base with this so feel free to correct me.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mfzb View Post
      Damn, there isn't anyone else who likes to use a low dose of dht with their test on a cruise? I know there's the concern of the prostate but it seems like the recent research is kind of pointing to estrogen as the culprit with prostate cancer. Maybe I'm way off base with this so feel free to correct me.
      I absolutely plan on running both when I begin cruising again . Mast is a great compound that brings so many positives to the table .

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      Quote Originally Posted by mfzb View Post
      Damn, there isn't anyone else who likes to use a low dose of dht with their test on a cruise? I know there's the concern of the prostate but it seems like the recent research is kind of pointing to estrogen as the culprit with prostate cancer. Maybe I'm way off base with this so feel free to correct me.
      I guess it depends on goals, but id rather save dht's for prep. They are HARSH on more than just your prostate. A "cruise" to me is a time to get healthy and bloods back in check, not to keep adding stuff. If I have to ADD different things to feel good, then id seriously question if I have a legitimate need for it, OR if im trying to mask a much larger issue that I might need more time off and blood work for...

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      Quote Originally Posted by your123man View Post
      I guess it depends on goals, but id rather save dht's for prep. They are HARSH on more than just your prostate. A "cruise" to me is a time to get healthy and bloods back in check, not to keep adding stuff. If I have to ADD different things to feel good, then id seriously question if I have a legitimate need for it, OR if im trying to mask a much larger issue that I might need more time off and blood work for...
      I agree with everything you said for the most part, I don't know if I would consider a very small amount of dhts HARSH on your body. The possibility of negative consequences is surely there, but I would think the risk/benefit ratio would be favorable for most people. High doses would be a different story. I suppose maybe for guys trying to protect a head of hair maybe that's an issue, but fortunately I shave my head so hair loss has never been an issue for me. Damn genetics took care of that..

      Another thing I think is more just a matter of semantics. When I hear "cruise" I think of something a little more aggressive than trt. An amount that allows you to progress, even if only at a snails pace, but is low enough to allow your body recover from a blast. Not something you would run for life. Trt is when you try to get everything as close as possible to what nature intended, so that you can ride off gracefully into the sunset.

      As far as getting bloods in order and feeling great my last cruise was probably my best one to date. I cruised on 20mg of prop a day subq with 25mg of proviron. Cruising on that for 10 weeks after a pretty heavy blast my bloods were near perfect and I felt awesome. But the daily shots did get old.

      And for record, I'm still new here and I don't want to come across as one of those guys who are always saying to take more drugs. I'm just putting my experiences out there. Im finding the older I get and as priorities change, my health is becoming more and more important.
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      Proviron or mast or deca/npp arent so bad to add with a cruise. As long as its still just cruise and not cycle doses.

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      i'd try cruising on a higher dose. try 200 out and make sure you use an AI if you need it. adding hcg also helps with mood in a lot of people. a low dose mast wouldn't be terrible to cruise on health wise, but try more test first because the right cruise protocol should make you feel great =)

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