Test/NPP or Test/ Deca???

**cowboy up** · 12-27-2014, 01:04 AM

Ok brothers looking for some input...

Thinking on running short ester Test P/ NPP/ Oral??? for an 8-10 weeker. Haven't run NPP before but have run deca so wondering on thoughts of NPP over deca and if oral kickstart is really needed with it being the short ester.

Cycle layout for TestP/ NPP would be-

1-8 150mg Test P EOD
1-8 100 mg NPP EOD
1-4 Oral (Have ran Dbol, Drol, Anavar prior)
.5 Adex twice a week
Caber if needed

Currently cruising at 200mg a wk Test C and will go back once blast is over until next blast. Looking for a leaner bulk with less bloat than what last test/deca/dbol cycle gave. Gained good size and strength but looking for more solid gains. How's dosage look? Changes? Have also thought of test/tren a cycle but may wait for the summer for that one.

**Dick** · 12-27-2014, 01:05 AM

If you are only doing 8-10 weeks run NPP , if you plan on cycling longer like 16 weeks run Deca.

Everyone is different though so you should really do what you and your body wants you to do brother. If I was doing a short cycle it would be short esters. Long cycle I would use long esters maybe with a short ester bump.

**kubes** · 12-27-2014, 01:06 AM

I wouldnt bother with the oral since you are already running short esters

**cowboy up** · 12-27-2014, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by Mick

If you are only doing 8-10 weeks run NPP , if you plan on cycling longer like 16 weeks run Deca.

Everyone is different though so you should really do what you and your body wants you to do brother. If I was doing a short cycle it would be short esters. Long cycle I would use long esters maybe with a short ester bump.

Last few cycles have been long esters which = long times in between cycles so thinking short esters this go around then 8-10 weeks cruising and then run Summer cut. Thoughts on dosages?

**Dick** · 12-27-2014, 01:50 AM

You know what you have ran previously bro , test the waters and run what you think is best for you. Personally I would keep the test above the NPP like you already have it. That's a nice quick cycle ... Run it!

I would also toss the Dbol in week 1 - 4 for sure ... why not? Get that bloat on !

**cowboy up** · 12-27-2014, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Mick

You know what you have ran previously bro , test the waters and run what you think is best for you. Personally I would keep the test above the NPP like you already have it. That's a nice quick cycle ... Run it!

I would also toss the Dbol in week 1 - 4 for sure ... why not? Get that bloat on !

LOL!!! Thanks brother! F'n hate the bloat but might throw it in or look for some tbol...

**Dick** · 12-27-2014, 02:20 AM

I love the bloat lol !!

**kubes** · 12-27-2014, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by cowboy up

LOL!!! Thanks brother! F'n hate the bloat but might throw it in or look for some tbol...

As long as you are eating clean and managing your estrogen you shouldn't get much bloat.

**bdad** · 12-27-2014, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by cowboy up

Ok brothers looking for some input...

Thinking on running short ester Test P/ NPP/ Oral??? for an 8-10 weeker. Haven't run NPP before but have run deca so wondering on thoughts of NPP over deca and if oral kickstart is really needed with it being the short ester.

Cycle layout for TestP/ NPP would be-

1-8 150mg Test P EOD
1-8 100 mg NPP EOD
1-4 Oral (Have ran Dbol, Drol, Anavar prior)
.5 Adex twice a week
Caber if needed

Currently cruising at 200mg a wk Test C and will go back once blast is over until next blast. Looking for a leaner bulk with less bloat than what last test/deca/dbol cycle gave. Gained good size and strength but looking for more solid gains. How's dosage look? Changes? Have also thought of test/tren a cycle but may wait for the summer for that one.

I have been thinking of running something similiar. I was planning on keeping my two compounds closely dosed ( 150 test/150npp..I love a full barrell) to try to eliminate as much water as possible, and beings its a shorter ester ajustments to dosage could be made on the fly. If your set on test p throughout the cycle I would definately chose npp, a similiar ester. Deca is one of my staples, last cycle I kick started my deca with npp and the results I recieved were impressive, this has sparked my interest ina short ester cycle. I was also planning on var at the end of the cycle. Let us know what you decide on.

**cowboy up** · 12-27-2014, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by bdad

I have been thinking of running something similiar. I was planning on keeping my two compounds closely dosed ( 150 test/150npp..I love a full barrell) to try to eliminate as much water as possible, and beings its a shorter ester ajustments to dosage could be made on the fly. If your set on test p throughout the cycle I would definately chose npp, a similiar ester. Deca is one of my staples, last cycle I kick started my deca with npp and the results I recieved were impressive, this has sparked my interest ina short ester cycle. I was also planning on var at the end of the cycle. Let us know what you decide on.

LOL- Problem with full barrels is it limits your injection sites. Shouldn't test be ran higher than NPP? I've also thought about running the var at the end as I did that with my last test/deca cycle and it worked great. Probably could do that with a test/npp cycle and forget about the oral kick start in the beginning with it being the short esters.