Thread: lean bulk

I like Tren for lean gains but it screws hard with my sleep. And with 6 kids--you need your rest bro.

I'm 41 and work a hectic schedule so my sleep is critical and tren is a real problem for that, so I can't include it anymore.

Im personally in the midst of a 16 week cycle for lean gains and it goes like this:

TestP (kick-start): 100mg EOD for two weeks
TestE: 625mg per week for 16 weeks
EQ: 500mg/week for 16 weeks
MastE: 500mg/week for LAST 8 weeks
ADEX as needed to deal with bloat (.25 as needed)
PCT is Clomid/Nolva

I'm 6'1 and just started week 10. Went from 206 to current 224.5.
I have probably run 15 cycles in my life but the last one was 3 years ago (had spine surgery in the middle).

tren is great but I just can't handle it.

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

test, tren, mast, 20 weeks....6 kids? god bless you. lol

Thank you! I need all the blessings I can get.

Originally Posted by kubes

I like npp better but you do realize they are both nandralone right?

Yes sir, I do know this and that's why I suggested it. Less bloat, faster acting.

Originally Posted by enrod

Replace the tren with npp imo, especially considering your hectic schedule. Not sure your experience, but when I'm on tren isolation is best.

Tren side si get are night sweats (well lets call them all day sweats) haha. Insomnia on and off. I don't get that tren rage. I have more of a euphoric feeling. Such a great mood. It is scary . Now once I'm pissed off .that's a different story . But tren doesn't cause me to flip or go into a rage on the drop of a dime.

Originally Posted by kubes

Not everyone reacts the same. Sides are different for everyone and tren is the strongest aas. If you can make gains with less its better cause you can always move to the tren later

I agree 100%. This is my plan. Run npp first half of cycle and switch to tren a second half.

Originally Posted by txdude316

Rest is key. I have 5 teens my self and 60+ hrs a week i get it its hard to get the right food at the right time and rest .... Wish you well and your wife and kids

Thanks txdude 316. Your right. But the food isn't the problem. It is the sleep. Sometimes I'm lucky to get 3 hrs a night. But what can I do. I'm not gonna give up, or quite all the extra I have to do to help my wife and kids. So , I just do it! I have to stay healthy to be there for my wife and kids. This disease is affecting my wife's every day life.in the past I would get discouraged because of the lack of sleep and hectic work schedule. Not any more. I just have to stay focused and determined. There are more important things I have to think about now. This is my way of life now. Nothing is gonna change that.

Originally Posted by BelicosoFino

I'm 41 and work a hectic schedule so my sleep is critical and tren is a real problem for that, so I can't include it anymore.

Im personally in the midst of a 16 week cycle for lean gains and it goes like this:

TestP (kick-start): 100mg EOD for two weeks
TestE: 625mg per week for 16 weeks
EQ: 500mg/week for 16 weeks
MastE: 500mg/week for LAST 8 weeks
ADEX as needed to deal with bloat (.25 as needed)
PCT is Clomid/Nolva

I'm 6'1 and just started week 10. Went from 206 to current 224.5.
I have probably run 15 cycles in my life but the last one was 3 years ago (had spine surgery in the middle).

tren is great but I just can't handle it.

This is a nice cycle. And your making great gains. Are you logging this.