Quick ? on current cycle

**drew1200** · 06-12-2015, 08:09 PM

So have been on 600mg TestE & 200mg TrenE for going on 12 weeks, adex EoD, Caber twice a week. Everything's good, still seeing a weekly difference in strength/body comp, sexxing the lady up 1-2x a day & no sides or BP issues to speak of. Was going to drop the Test/Tren, do 6 weeks of Var to finish, then call it good as I was going to be traveling end of the summer & into the fall. Travel plans are now off the table, and I'm itching to just keep going with the Test/Tren, maybe even bump up the Tren a bit, and add 200mg deca for the joints.

My main question - how long is too long for tren? I've got some other goodies on hand as well and am open to switching over to something else to take a break from the tren if need be... but goddamn I love tren. 200-300mg / week seems to be my sweet spot for strength/fat burning without screwing with my ability to do cardio or bring on any of the tren sides.

Secondary question - if the consensus is it's kosher to continue with the tren... any thoughts on upping it to 300mg week and adding in 200mg deca? From what I've read, having caber & letro on hand is the main thing, which I already have.

I know these are kiddie doses to most of you guys. Appreciate any input!

Edit: Should also add I'm getting bloodwork done next week, so however that comes out will obviously impact what I do going forward.

**Squatdaddy** · 06-12-2015, 08:24 PM

Tren dose seems extremely low...my guess at 200mg a week you could saved the Caber but it is what has you doing all the boning.
For years and doses from 400-900 a week I use one rule on Tren. Drink a gallon or more of water a day....at end of day piss still looks like Tren come.
Some mix it but I don't like Tren and Deca mixed risk of 2 many sides...IMO.
My choice would be reverse it 600 Tren/200 Test.

**studmuffin** · 06-12-2015, 10:57 PM

Tren is different for people, some can handle it with few sides and then there is people like me who has a lot of sides. If I did not have so many sides from tren I would be on it with all my cycles. I do run tren at the mg the same as you and I do fine. I always have test in all my cycles it helps with my libido.

**drew1200** · 06-13-2015, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Squatdaddy

Tren dose seems extremely low...my guess at 200mg a week you could saved the Caber but it is what has you doing all the boning.
For years and doses from 400-900 a week I use one rule on Tren. Drink a gallon or more of water a day....at end of day piss still looks like Tren come.
Some mix it but I don't like Tren and Deca mixed risk of 2 many sides...IMO.
My choice would be reverse it 600 Tren/200 Test.

Thanks for the response. You're probably right on the caber, but have been gyno-prone in the past and am overly paranoid... and the other benefits are nice too

Drinking tons of water, no issues there. I tried doing higher tren than test my last cycle, the tren results were "amplified" a bit, but I lost my happy sense of well being, which is more important to me than the quicker results nowadays. It's funny, last I was active on some of the online boards, it was always recommended more test than tren. Doing it the other way around seems to be something that's grown popular in the last 5-6 yrs?

Have never done tren & deca together so that's the reason I'm asking, also paranoid of the sides, but hoping with the lower doses of each it won't be an issue.

**drew1200** · 06-13-2015, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by studmuffin

Tren is different for people, some can handle it with few sides and then there is people like me who has a lot of sides. If I did not have so many sides from tren I would be on it with all my cycles. I do run tren at the mg the same as you and I do fine. I always have test in all my cycles it helps with my libido.

Yup first 2 runs with tren were 100mg EoD, saw enough of the tren sides to back off a bit, sides went away and still got results so... if the lower dosage works no reason to spend the $$ on more.

**drew1200** · 06-13-2015, 12:43 AM

I guess my concern/paranoia with the tren is the heart issues that it causes for heavy users - it increases the prostaglandins in the body which gives it the fat burning effect but also constricts the airways, hence the tren shortness of breath, and makes the heart work harder to get the required oxygen to the cells, hence the risk of cardiopulmonary issues.

At the low dose I'm taking, I've noticed no shortness of breath or other ill effects on my cardio, nor any of the other sides associated with tren. I feel like I am, however, still reaping the benefits (although at a slower rate to what a higher dose would do). But as with all things having to do with my health, I try to err on the side of being overly cautious.

**Tazzzz** · 06-13-2015, 12:59 AM

I have found that dosing Tren is different for each person. Yes, there are some good guide lines to keep things safe, but as far as sides and results go, each person is different. If you love Tren--and I do too--I would SLOWLY up the dosage till you start to feel sides that are more than you want to deal with and then back off slightly. This would be a good thing to know--your high Tren limit--so you don't push too hard and have real problems. I can run Tren-A @ 150mg/EOD and be comfortable AND see great results. Higher than that and sweats get a little crazy and I start getting too much neg cardio sides. Aggression doesn't happen, no shakes or cramps. Just my thoughts

**HimRoid** · 06-13-2015, 11:35 PM

Lately, I keep my tren dose at 37.5mg eod. I stack it with npp, so basically the same as stacking with deca. If you dose low then you can stay on tren a long time with no negative sides. When I used to dose tren at 700mg plus, I felt toxic as all hell!