Thread: Middle East BBing

Just wanted to throw this out there this is how guys in the middle east run there gear, coming from a friend of mine who lives there currently:

they do almost everything differently...

i'm probably the only guy in my country that went through this bodybuilding crap the "american" way... and that's why i looked different... not in a good way.

tell a european or middle eastern guy you're on 1500 mg of enanthate 12 weeks out of contest and the only thing you'll hear is "LOL!"


offseason: a little bit of cypionate, lots of deca, dbol, anadrol, EQ, insulin, GH
contest prep: no test... maybe a little prop here and there, about 300 mg... lots of tren hex, eq, primo, winny, masteron, gh, slin, clen, T3, T4, and ephedrine... they never heard of DNP.

training:
very high volume... hours on end of training. not many people do cardio because of the high volume. light/moderate weights. someone who can bench 315 lbs (that's a lot when you ask ME guys) would go for 225 lbs max when prepping for a contest. 20-30 sets per muscle group 2-3 times per week. focusing mostly on isolation movements. a common practice is to go around all the machines in the gym for a bodypart. mind muscle connection is the most important thing to them. if you have a max barbell curl of 135 lbs, you'd do your sets for that exercise like this
30 lbs x 20
40 lbs x 15
50 lbs x 15
60 lbs x 12
70 lbs x 10
80 lbs x 10
90 lbs x 8
100 lbs x 6
110 lbs x 6
120 lbs x 6
135 lbs x 4

the light sets are really slow, heavy are faster. then you move on to your second exercise


I remember i never seeked help from anyone in the gym cuz i was shy. i used to read read read on the net and forums and shit and got my knowledge from there. when i talked to people i used to think to myself "man, these dudes are stupid... heheh..." now i believe i'm the retard ... all this overtraining crap... i've never seen it here... i've only seen it with naturals, people who use fake gear, and people who have REALLY bad genetics for building muscle.

Diet:
wow... world of difference between here and there... offseason, eat whatever the fuck you want and whenever you're hungry. people really don't care about getting bigger in the offseason, but they just get fat and want to relax. because contest prep is usually 20+ weeks with the first half being "grow as much as lean mass as you can", then the second part is "get shredded as quickly as possible."
protein is around 1 gram per lb of bodyweight (they don't measure it, but they just know that they have to eat chicken, beef, tuna, whey, aminos... etc)... carbs are mostly potatoes and rice. they never eat whole eggs. VERY LOW FAT!!! i'm talking zero here (or as close as they can)... no one ever eats fat when they prepare for a contest.

Big A was right when he said that if you need more than 9 weeks to prep for a contest, you're probably above 20% fat. people here get from fat, out of shape, to shredded in 8 weeks.
americans really try hard to be above 220 lbs... we are the exact opposite... we try to lose 3-5 lbs per week and really don't give a shit if it's muscle or fat, because in 8 weeks you'd be shredded regardless.
the lighter the weight class, the more chances you have to win. and since international contests actually have weight classes (unlike Mr.olympia), you can actually choose your battles. like shahat mabrouk, one day he's 80 kg, then next he's 100+

as for HGH... i've never seen that 'blue top' crap in my country. i was the first guy to ever import it and people would "fuck, that looks as fake as shit"... norditropin, Saizen, genotropin, glotropin (global) and Dong-A are the only brands sold here (Dong-A is actually HG and approved by the ministry of health)

The eq is vet grade (ganabol... the 50 mg/ml stuff)... i knew a guy who would put 10 ml in each trap every week.
Stanazol we get zambons (lots of fakes though) and the best is RWR.


again... bodybuilding isn't rocket science... that's why a lot of the top competitors have the mentality of a two year old (sorry, i didn't mean to hurt anyone, but you gotta give me a break. they aren't the smartest people around)... and people here try to bring things down to an exact science! LOL! i know a guy (huge and shredded) that actually thinks he's eating 500 grams of protein... and tells everyone he eats 500 grams of protein... LOOOOL! turns out he eats 500 grams of chicken.
even if you know what these people eat, most guys on here are gonna over analyze and start to try and tailor it to their weight and what not... well, it won't work that way.

So the guys in the middle east continue to use gear that crushes your natural test production but do not inject any test to make up for the difference? Sounds like a recipe for disaster if you ask me., they should at least take a TRT dose level of test when running gear that crushes their natural test production.

How do you eat beef without eating fat? Buffalo is very low in fat (far lower than beef) and it still contains fat.

I have seen some very shredded Ethiopians during the great famines of the 80s and 90s...cannot say it is a good look, though. Losing 3 pounds of muscle a week for 8 weeks is 24 pounds of muscle lost.

Shahat Mabrouk is definitely built! Guy works hard, especially considering he passed the doping tests when the first and second place guys did not, giving him the win. Deserved it too, since they broke the rules and were caught.

DNP is a fast ticket to death, so good on them for being ignorant of it, probably saved a lot of their lives. Its only actual good use would be inside a cold weather survival kit - where having your body temp increased to stupid levels is something you need to survive.

Originally Posted by cybrsage

So the guys in the middle east continue to use gear that crushes your natural test production but do not inject any test to make up for the difference? Sounds like a recipe for disaster if you ask me., they should at least take a TRT dose level of test when running gear that crushes their natural test production.

How do you eat beef without eating fat? Buffalo is very low in fat (far lower than beef) and it still contains fat.

I have seen some very shredded Ethiopians during the great famines of the 80s and 90s...cannot say it is a good look, though. Losing 3 pounds of muscle a week for 8 weeks is 24 pounds of muscle lost.

Shahat Mabrouk is definitely built! Guy works hard, especially considering he passed the doping tests when the first and second place guys did not, giving him the win. Deserved it too, since they broke the rules and were caught.

DNP is a fast ticket to death, so good on them for being ignorant of it, probably saved a lot of their lives. Its only actual good use would be inside a cold weather survival kit - where having your body temp increased to stupid levels is something you need to survive.

I think you misunderstood some of it....they take high anabolics and generally trt dose of test at most (hence why they stay so dry for shows and are so lean). The foods they eat are generally meats and veggies, low carbs low fat foods no dairy, oils, etc.

Also I don't get your metaphor of shredded Ethiopians....have you ever seen a bodybuilder from Oxygen gym in Kuwait??? Far from famine looking.

Interesting article. Thanks for posting that

Originally Posted by suraonyx23

Interesting article. Thanks for posting that

No problem bud this was written from a friend of mine over there. Here is what he currently runs now just so people get the idea of what he's talking about:
Test E (rx) 250mg per week
Eq (vet) 1000mg per week
Tren (vet) 350mg per week
gh (rx) 6iu per day
slin 20iu split throughout the day 3x per week

Originally Posted by nspaletta

No problem bud this was written from a friend of mine over there. Here is what he currently runs now just so people get the idea of what he's talking about:
Test E (rx) 250mg per week
Eq (vet) 1000mg per week
Tren (vet) 350mg per week
gh (rx) 6iu per day
slin 20iu split throughout the day 3x per week

Looks standard honestly to alot of cycles we see. As far as aas doses. Now slin maybe different.

Originally Posted by suraonyx23

Looks standard honestly to alot of cycles we see. As far as aas doses. Now slin maybe different.

Well biggest difference is most people in the US believe you need high doses of test to grow...which in fact is wrong. Test you only need a trt dose to keep levels above optimal, then the anabolics (preferably ones that don't aromatize) that will be used to grow and stay lean.

The other main difference, if you can get a product either rx or vet grade you get it. They stay away from any ugl over there especially gh.