opinions on this cycle

**ironjulius** · 09-16-2015, 01:31 AM

ok let me have it what do yall think of this cycle. I will be running pharmacom gear and doing a log for my next cycle starting the end of October

week 1-5 dbol 30-40mg
week 1-12 deca 550-600mg
week 1-13 test E 900mg
week 7-13 winny 30-40mg
week 12-22 pharma Mix 2 which would be 400mg test PP, 400mg Tren A, 600mg Mast P
week 15-22 anavar 50-60mg
arimidex .25mg eod with prami on hand if needed

im really just wondering if my liver will be able to take that many orals. i want to run winny with deca to help with the joints

thanks for any input

**ironjulius** · 09-16-2015, 01:34 AM

im on TRT so no PCT

**Dick** · 09-16-2015, 01:37 AM

So Bulk from 1-12 then cut from 12 -22 is that what I am reading? 7-13 for the winny is throwing me off a bit.

Never tried that lol, Make sure you take your liver supps and get bloods brother. Live 52 and some Nac, maybe a vita pack of some sort.

If you run this I will be following.

**ironjulius** · 09-16-2015, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by Mick

So Bulk from 1-12 then cut from 12 -22 is that what I am reading?

Never tried that lol, Make sure you take your liver supps and get bloods brother. Live 52 and some Nac, maybe a vita pack of some sort.

If you run this I will be following.

yes bulk then lean lol im not big on cutting and will have to make some major changes in diet

yes i will run Nac and i think i will go with Tudca. Milk Thistle before and after cycle

**Loose Cannon** · 09-16-2015, 01:46 AM

looks awesome interested to hear what happens. never heard of someone doing a bulk cut in one cycle. my only concern is by the time the deca is really doing its thing you only have like 6 weeks to take advantage of it. the tren a will for sure kick your ass. killed my cardio though so for a cut be weary.

**nspaletta** · 09-16-2015, 07:11 PM

What's your stats? Height, weight, est. bf%?

**ironjulius** · 09-16-2015, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by nspaletta

What's your stats? Height, weight, est. bf%?

5'11 220 right now been on cruise the past 7 weeks. I havent really trained hard in about 9 months because of injured nerve which died out and stuck with trying to get bicep back which i am able to hammer curl 80's once now 4 months ago i couldnt do 40's. BF% is probably 15-16% right now i do very little cardio and diet has been shit this entire year but i dont eat fast food or drink sodas. wife cooks good my problem is stopping by the bakery

**nspaletta** · 09-16-2015, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by ironjulius

5'11 220 right now been on cruise the past 7 weeks. I havent really trained hard in about 9 months because of injured nerve which died out and stuck with trying to get bicep back which i am able to hammer curl 80's once now 4 months ago i couldnt do 40's. BF% is probably 15-16% right now i do very little cardio and diet has been shit this entire year but i dont eat fast food or drink sodas. wife cooks good my problem is stopping by the bakery

Glad to know you are back in the game bud! I think maybe cruise for another month or so, lean down a bit more get the body going hard in the gym and prime yourself for that cycle and you will see great gains!

**ironjulius** · 09-16-2015, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by nspaletta

Glad to know you are back in the game bud! I think maybe cruise for another month or so, lean down a bit more get the body going hard in the gym and prime yourself for that cycle and you will see great gains!

thanks it will be the end of october before i start and i can get to the gym but still depressing knowing i may never get full strength in the bicep. this cycle i think will really motivate me and im really looking into diet its been about 2 years since ive had a 6 pack which my lower abs is where i hold most of my fat im lucky i have no love handles

**Anabolic Plus** · 09-16-2015, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by nspaletta

Glad to know you are back in the game bud! I think maybe cruise for another month or so, lean down a bit more get the body going hard in the gym and prime yourself for that cycle and you will see great gains!

Agree with this 100%. see what you can get back first before hitting it hard. you have had quite a while off.

Originally Posted by ironjulius

thanks it will be the end of october before i start and i can get to the gym but still depressing knowing i may never get full strength in the bicep. this cycle i think will really motivate me and im really looking into diet its been about 2 years since ive had a 6 pack which my lower abs is where i hold most of my fat im lucky i have no love handles

This is how i look at things like this. it's the only way to look at it IMO, but in your case with your injury you may get back to your old 100% but if you don't try to think like this. your old 100% is gone!! it wont come back but you now have a new 100% and that's what you need to think of and work with. mentally it's still 100% only a new 100%. its worked often for me to help through injuries that were never going to be back to how they were. i hope it helps you embrace your new position, it doesn't have to be thought of as a worse position just different.