Why we juice....the hidden reasons

**jtip1810** · 09-24-2015, 02:59 AM

I use to be a fat kid (very fat) now I'm getting older and want to be in the best shape ever. There is a fear of going back to the fat kid so it makes me push harder to achieve my goals. Trained natty for a few years and around 33 I hit a wall just no drive or progress so read and learned which lead me to this path. I never half ass anything very competitive in nature and I also have a hot younger wife that keeps me pushing harder as well lol. I believe everyone had insecurities of some sort how you deal with them is your decision and this is how I dealt with mine. Like preacher said this is a lifestyle for us now and loving it you just have to be safe research and ask questions.

**bushido** · 09-24-2015, 03:12 AM

I wanna say i started do to feeling the need to self medicate. I can tell you i felt much better physically and mentally when i started. That combined with somethinh similar to what jtip said i just kept it up.

**GoProp** · 09-24-2015, 04:47 AM

This is a great topic. GLAD you brought it up. I dealt with a problem for a very long time and sometimes still do.
I started using drugs and drinking at a young age cause I never like myself or who I was. I was beaten by my dad and my other brothers were never touched. It made me think that something was wrong with me and that I was worthless and a waste of breath and time.
I started lifting weights cause I was small as a teen and picked on by kid and still my father. So I became more and more engrossed in getting bigger and more powerful and making people fear me the way I had feared for so long.
I did my first real injectable cycle when I lived over seas growing up. Was Sust 250, 500mgs week and 25mgs Dbol ED. Was all pharmaceutical grade. The results blew my mind, I was hooked. Used for many years but eventually met my wife and just slowed down and well....did what boring married people do lol.
NoW I am getting back into it all just cause I feel older and don't wanna be left behind and love bein in the gym and the feeling and size that comes with it

My mind set is different then it was in my younger years and I now understand what drove me then but now I am driven by life, and the need to be in shape and be there a long time from now for my wife.
So what drives you??

**benlash74** · 09-24-2015, 09:55 AM

This is a very deep thread. Reading over some guys stuff we are all looking for the same thing. Respect. I have been an easy target for disrespectful assholes since grade school. Everything I've done in my life since then like karate, boxing, jui jitsu, drugs, alcohol, joining the marines, has been to push the fear of the image of being a defenseless weakling away from myself. To this day I will fight at the drop of a dime. I can't stand bullies. I take it upon myself to call them out for the cowards they truly are. I have noticed that most of the guys who lift and I train with are not bullies and I have seen plenty of them stand up for the smaller guys and gals. That cannot be just a coincidence. I agree that most of us have similar mindsets. Some people just aren't in tune with their inner thoughts.

**Jozifp103** · 09-24-2015, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by benlash74

This is a very deep thread. Reading over some guys stuff we are all looking for the same thing. Respect. I have been an easy target for disrespectful assholes since grade school. Everything I've done in my life since then like karate, boxing, jui jitsu, drugs, alcohol, joining the marines, has been to push the fear of the image of being a defenseless weakling away from myself. To this day I will fight at the drop of a dime. I can't stand bullies. I take it upon myself to call them out for the cowards they truly are. I have noticed that most of the guys who lift and I train with are not bullies and I have seen plenty of them stand up for the smaller guys and gals. That cannot be just a coincidence. I agree that most of us have similar mindsets. Some people just aren't in tune with their inner thoughts.

Couldn't agree more. If you asked me when I first started why I used AAS, I would have just told you I wanted to get big. It wasn't until I really thought about it and traced back my inner thoughts that I realized there's an underlying cause for my desire to use AAS. An unknown motivation. Then I remembered what it was like to be the small guy who was helpless at defending himself and his family. Now it makes sense.

Great input by all.....I wish I could address every post

**Anabolic Plus** · 09-24-2015, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by GoProp

This is a great topic. GLAD you brought it up. I dealt with a problem for a very long time and sometimes still do.
I started using drugs and drinking at a young age cause I never like myself or who I was. I was beaten by my dad and my other brothers were never touched. It made me think that something was wrong with me and that I was worthless and a waste of breath and time.
I started lifting weights cause I was small as a teen and picked on by kid and still my father. So I became more and more engrossed in getting bigger and more powerful and making people fear me the way I had feared for so long.
I did my first real injectable cycle when I lived over seas growing up. Was Sust 250, 500mgs week and 25mgs Dbol ED. Was all pharmaceutical grade. The results blew my mind, I was hooked. Used for many years but eventually met my wife and just slowed down and well....did what boring married people do lol.
NoW I am getting back into it all just cause I feel older and don't wanna be left behind and love bein in the gym and the feeling and size that comes with it

My mind set is different then it was in my younger years and I now understand what drove me then but now I am driven by life, and the need to be in shape and be there a long time from now for my wife.
So what drives you??

Originally Posted by benlash74

This is a very deep thread. Reading over some guys stuff we are all looking for the same thing. Respect. I have been an easy target for disrespectful assholes since grade school. Everything I've done in my life since then like karate, boxing, jui jitsu, drugs, alcohol, joining the marines, has been to push the fear of the image of being a defenseless weakling away from myself. To this day I will fight at the drop of a dime. I can't stand bullies. I take it upon myself to call them out for the cowards they truly are. I have noticed that most of the guys who lift and I train with are not bullies and I have seen plenty of them stand up for the smaller guys and gals. That cannot be just a coincidence. I agree that most of us have similar mindsets. Some people just aren't in tune with their inner thoughts.

Good for you!! both of you. as people have said this is a very interesting thread and all that have posted i applaud, especially some of you who have some not so nice stuff you have had to deal with. hopefully y'all way past all that and can keep moving forward in your lifes.

**draconian2014** · 09-24-2015, 01:43 PM

reading these I realize I should have delved a lil deeper into my mindset . this might sound gay even though I am so into woman it's pathetic but here is my truth . I worked for a tree service climbing trees got thin and strong looked awesome got girls led me to the gym to just lifting since I have always been a fan . and comfortable with my sexuality to look at arnorld or frank zane and say wow the are beautiful gods . I was amazed any one could have a body like that . anyway after I started going to the gym I ran into a trainer there he was 6 foot 2 and made me feel like a lab rat in his presence and instantly I knew what I wanted to be I felt so small around him and like I said I am not a little guy I am bigger then most ppl so for some one to make me feel little put me in complete awe and that's when I knew I needed more lots more grotesque more now I am in a place I can make that happen I am going to try my hardest to put as much muscle as I can on .

**Jozifp103** · 09-24-2015, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by draconian2014

reading these I realize I should have delved a lil deeper into my mindset . this might sound gay even though I am so into woman it's pathetic but here is my truth . I worked for a tree service climbing trees got thin and strong looked awesome got girls led me to the gym to just lifting since I have always been a fan . and comfortable with my sexuality to look at arnorld or frank zane and say wow the are beautiful gods . I was amazed any one could have a body like that . anyway after I started going to the gym I ran into a trainer there he was 6 foot 2 and made me feel like a lab rat in his presence and instantly I knew what I wanted to be I felt so small around him and like I said I am not a little guy I am bigger then most ppl so for some one to make me feel little put me in complete awe and that's when I knew I needed more lots more grotesque more now I am in a place I can make that happen I am going to try my hardest to put as much muscle as I can on .

Nothing "gay" about any of that bro. We're all influenced by male bodybuilders...and honestly for me it's more rewarding when one of my bro's compliments my hard work and physique, than it is when a girl does because at least my bros understand what it takes to look like that. They appreciate the effort more.

Not to mention a lot of us shave our bodies, go tanning, and jump on stage in a speedo so we're a pretty open minded bunch

**Looseunitwa** · 09-25-2015, 12:20 AM

Either or either...........................fear the reason!

**Anabolic Plus** · 09-25-2015, 11:03 AM

It seems some of us got to this point in very different ways and some of us in ways that were similar but no matter how we all got here it seems clear once your here everyone seems to have the same goals which is the strive to be better and continue forward in a positive motion whatever that goal is. this IMO is nothing short of a great thing. y'all keep up the good work, never forget how you got there and never give up the hard work.