Thread: Stubborn Fat Loose Skin After major Weight Loss CYCLE?

Hi guys there is A fella at the Gym who was obese wgen he First started coming about 3-4years ago. He has Lost about 100 pounds. 3+ years of Training he worked and works his but off. To get where hes at Now hesays he is About 15% Bodyfat and by the Looks of him 90% of this fat is in his Ab /lovehandle CORE Area.. I know he isnt lying ans saw the transformation myself. He is semi Muscular about 210lbs i think.
BUT HE Cannot Lose the midsection Stubborn Fat after years of Dieting and Exercise etc. He said he Ran PHs Once.
NOW HE feels he has Done almost everything possible to. Lose this stubborn Fat Skin Fupa.. Whatever you call it.. But Cant But at same time NEVER WENT ULTRA CATABOLIC LOW CALORIE intake as he is Trying to buuld and maintain muscle as well.
He ASKS COULD GEAR BENEFIT Him? And If so What? Or Anything Else he maybe able to do to Lose this Stubborn FAT in the midsection.. But Not lose and Muscle hopefully even keep trying to build at same time.
What Would or Could you guys reccomend For HIM?

HE feels Like he needs to turn to the gear as he has Tirelessy worked his But off for all this time and it is about the Only thing he hasnt done besides Surgery.
Hes a good Kid and I dont want him to give up HE HAS DONE ALL THIS WORK AND TIME and still not there physically in the midsection I think Its GENETIC, partly Extra Skin, He is against Surgery..
Anyways i Dont want him to give up after Losing 100Lbs and still trying to build..
Hes Not lying his Upper Body Looks Great but his Midsection "Spare Tire" and Fupa Pouch Ab area Is A Mess, its actually really surprising when you see him take his shirt off.. Boggles My Mind almost.. The Fat Is literally all and Only in the midsection.. Dont know if a Correct Cycle Could Help get him over the hump..?

When I read the title I thought about just saying " try smoking some gear" because of your thread yesterday. But after reading your question I reaslised it deserved a legitimate answer.

The first thing thats important to know is how old is he? If he's anywhere close to 25 then I would suggest he not use any gear. Next is what are his true goals and objectives? If he's looking to get into body building then and understands what is involved with steroids both physically AND mentally then they could help him. If he's just a good kid who over indulged and ate to much for to long and is trying to live a healthier AND happier life and be a more attractive to women, then I say he should NOT use steroids. If I were you I'd advise him to try some different types of diets that are more aggressive - maybe a keto diet. Unfortunately body recomp without using steroids can take a long time when someone gets to the point he's at and he needs to stay patient. Unfortunately if the issue is actually with loose skin then surgery is really the only solution.

You're a good guy for looking out for him and trying to help!!!

Originally Posted by bulk_cut

When I read the title I thought about just saying " try smoking some gear" because of your thread yesterday. But after reading your question I reaslised it deserved a legitimate answer.

The first thing thats important to know is how old is he? If he's anywhere close to 25 then I would suggest he not use any gear. Next is what are his true goals and objectives? If he's looking to get into body building then and understands what is involved with steroids both physically AND mentally then they could help him. If he's just a good kid who over indulged and ate to much for to long and is trying to live a healthier AND happier life and be a more attractive to women, then I say he should NOT use steroids. If I were you I'd advise him to try some different types of diets that are more aggressive - maybe a keto diet. Unfortunately body recomp without using steroids can take a long time when someone gets to the point he's at and he needs to stay patient. Unfortunately if the issue is actually with loose skin then surgery is really the only solution.

You're a good guy for looking out for him and trying to help!!!

He is 28 or 29 years Old. He is Not against usine steroids.. He has done research isnt scared of them. He understands what they do etc from me and his own research. BUT his question and my question is Could and What IF ANY CHCLE would benefit someone like Him as its VERY UNTYPICAL... being in that position.. Beig Very Physically Fit having a good Foundation BUT Just Fat Skin An excess in the Mid section aftwr the weightloss.. I dont even know what compounds to reccomend to him.. and he says the same. Where to start..? And WOULD THEY EVEN BENEFIT?
BTWthe Smoking GwR thread Was really just for Entertinment purposes.. Nobody God I hope nobody would ever actually consider that..!

Bro I played football since I was grade school through collage. I was on offensive guard, in high school I was 275. after 2 years of college ball I was pushing 290. This was mainly fat and on a 5'10 frame. I did the same thing as your buddy and when football was out of the picture I lost right under 100 lbs in 9 months. The weight came off too fast due to my lack of understanding proper nutrition and excessive cardio. I was faced with a similar issue as your friend the spare tire. How old is this guy? The main reason I believe he has a spare tire look is due to the fact that his skin was stretched out from being extremely over weight. The loose skin is a mother fucker... you can be 10percent bf and look like your 15% The weight will come off with continued diet and exercise. however he may have to eventually deal with the issue of getting rid of the loose skin. I tried an Rx cream that offered minimal help, then there is the option for laser type treatment, then of course the most invasive measure is a tummy tuck. I did the laser treatment and it work well enough.

If he were to run a stim and loose more weight this would shrink the the "spare tire" however it will not get rid of it or the problem. Can he pull his abdominal skin further then normal... almost like is elastic if this the case, continued steady weight loss, while keeping skin healthy (coco butter wouldnt hurt) is his best option.

If he is dead set on running aas the only gear known to increase lipolysis is Primo Depot, and anavar (many believe Var targets abdominal fat and thigh). There is also tren but that should just be out of the question

Originally Posted by MaxMark

Bro I played football since I was grade school through collage. I was on offensive guard, in high school I was 275. after 2 years of college ball I was pushing 290. This was mainly fat and on a 5'10 frame. I did the same thing as your buddy and when football was out of the picture I lost right under 100 lbs in 9 months. The weight came off too fast due to my lack of understanding proper nutrition and excessive cardio. I was faced with a similar issue as your friend the spare tire. How old is this guy? The main reason I believe he has a spare tire look is due to the fact that his skin was stretched out from being extremely over weight. The loose skin is a mother fucker... you can be 10percent bf and look like your 15% The weight will come off with continued diet and exercise. however he may have to eventually deal with the issue of getting rid of the loose skin. I tried an Rx cream that offered minimal help, then there is the option for laser type treatment, then of course the most invasive measure is a tummy tuck. I did the laser treatment and it work well enough.

If he were to run a stim and loose more weight this would shrink the the "spare tire" however it will not get rid of it or the problem. Can he pull his abdominal skin further then normal... almost like is elastic if this the case, continued steady weight loss, while keeping skin healthy (coco butter wouldnt hurt) is his best option.

If he is dead set on running aas the only gear known to increase lipolysis is Primo Depot, and anavar (many believe Var targets abdominal fat and thigh). There is also tren but that should just be out of the question

Yea i think He is 28-29.. If the Gear is a waste no point.. But i tell him you should give it a try as he was wanting to run a cycle down the road anyways.. ISo if there were cycle suggestions that coukd work given his Matter.. Which yes I think its like half fat Half Skin.. And even a little water weight.. It is Loose.. And Light.. Hes says it floats easily in a tub...Lol..
BUT. Only thing i could thig of was a cutting cycle.... But doesnt want to lose any gains and still add qualiry muscle.
I WILL HAVE TO TELL HIM ABOUT THE LASER Option.. I guess He talked to someone about a tummy Tuck and it scared him off, all that was Involved, the Risk, how evasive, and the Cost.. So he was AGAINST THAT or made it seem like it was not an Option.
I will have to say something about Laser chances are he already researched or knows a thing or tow about it.. But Laser to me.. Just sounds like for Mild or minimal cases.. And Wouldnt help with the Skin.. But I dunno.. Thays Up to him.. What does Laser Cost when you had it done.. Thanks Cool that I can Tell him i talked to so eone thst wad in the exact same Situation!

Originally Posted by Mhuddleston

Yea i think He is 28-29.. If the Gear is a waste no point.. But i tell him you should give it a try as he was wanting to run a cycle down the road anyways.. ISo if there were cycle suggestions that coukd work given his Matter.. Which yes I think its like half fat Half Skin.. And even a little water weight.. It is Loose.. And Light.. Hes says it floats easily in a tub...Lol..
BUT. Only thing i could thig of was a cutting cycle.... But doesnt want to lose any gains and still add qualiry muscle.
I WILL HAVE TO TELL HIM ABOUT THE LASER Option.. I guess He talked to someone about a tummy Tuck and it scared him off, all that was Involved, the Risk, how evasive, and the Cost.. So he was AGAINST THAT or made it seem like it was not an Option.
I will have to say something about Laser chances are he already researched or knows a thing or tow about it.. But Laser to me.. Just sounds like for Mild or minimal cases.. And Wouldnt help with the Skin.. But I dunno.. Thays Up to him.. What does Laser Cost when you had it done.. Thanks Cool that I can Tell him i talked to so eone thst wad in the exact same Situation!

The laser treatment was around $500 but my doc hooked me up since he had a private practice and offered it among other things.

Lipolysis is the breakdown of lipids and involves hydrolysis of triglycerides into glycerol and free fatty acids. In other words the aas compounds that I mentioned will actually burn fat.

Ahh Ok, i See... so the stubborn fat etc. I dont know if hei shod tell him bulk up to fill in the loose skin... Or obliterate that fat then try bulking.. Its tough for him cuz i see him when he hads calories.. And it Goes DIRECTLY to the waist.. Ab Area.. Nowhere else Really.. It does But sliwly and evenly. Jyst unproportianate.. He HAS TO Defy Genetics.

I will reccomend those AAS compoubds to him. Im surd He will do his research, and Come up with a Baby/light minimal Cycle looking at the cuttinga compounds. He is smart guy.. IMO opinion because Just NOW he is Seriously Considering taking the ANABOLICS.. to me the oerfect time whrn youve TRIED EVERUTHING TO REACH your Goals.. Have a Decdnt foundation.. and Atvthe Right Age of 28... Only thing was we werent sure about was starting the AAS given the Fat.. But its not a High % hes around 16% supposedly its just All in one spot so.. I had mixed feelings about advising hin to take AAS when you can grab a handful of skin/fat/subcutaneous water or whatecer it is.. But i Suppose the Cut cycle could be a good Intro to Anabolics anyways..

Originally Posted by Mfire

I've had the same issue, got down to 10% and still have that sag in the middle, it's weird as shit cause you can see the abs through it, but just won't firm up, for me it seem to stay around 15% and keep the top big I look my best, I started out around 40% BF

keep busting you ass, take fish oils, use a good brand lotion and use It daily it will slowly get better took me about 3yr to get rid of the kangaroo pouch. The laser treatment was the final touch for me when It was only really noticeable when I sat down