Thread: Bulking with short esters

Originally Posted by txdude316

Yep my TRT guy is a pain at Times after some "questionable" labs he is 3 to 6 months on my bloods but the good thing is I know the time I have from lab to lab I had to go through hell to get back on TRT after my last time being kicked off. Why stay? Well insurance pays for it without any I make next to nothing as far as test goes and I need to have it prescribed I have a type of job that can and will look for such things I can't say what type of job but I bet you can figure it out. But I need to fool the doc more than any thing. I can't go any longer with out pinning I went all natty for last labs lost about 18lbs and went up in fat %

I dont know brother maybe you need a better concrete plan .....bein your job and trt is on the line .....make sure you google the npp detection time I hate to see you lose your job

I here that I will look to see I know time on most others. Good thing is with the job they know every script we take and will not test for that the Dr works closely with them so usually all is well there. And he is not the type to tell why the let's say questionable test levels where there and that was on me I took the lab only days after a heavy cycle. but he will not be a cover up. Using his trt script and really a AAS get out of jail free card. If you will. so I did make a deal no more bad lab work and he keep the juice flowing so to speak

Update after a bit more research 12 months detection time. One more question maybe someone could save me some time. NPP will not change test levels will it ? And what would you typically see on labs full panel labs that one could probably hide with some other things. Liver profiles I know I can fix before labs but high test not so much

Originally Posted by txdude316

Update after a bit more research 12 months detection time. One more question maybe someone could save me some time. NPP will not change test levels will it ? And what would you typically see on labs full panel labs that one could probably hide with some other things. Liver profiles I know I can fix before labs but high test not so much

Depending on the type of test he uses to check your levels any 19 nor can effect them. The elisa method is the one im speaking of...19 nors will make your test levels look higher on that method. Ive never heard of a job that tests for aas usage though..not even most law enforcement jobs. My opinion...if you have a job that tests for aas but you cant afford to buy ug test to self administer your own trt than you might want to start looking for a better job...seems awful strict testing for a lower paying job to me...aas testing is very expensive to do.
Im also pretty sure scripted test is actually far more expensive than ug test since they changed their policies on test scripts unless your insurance covers 100%

If you are worried about testing just run 2ml of test prop everyday for 12 weeks eat big and clean.. You will blow up

Yeah cover 100% and as far as the job goes if there is "legit" reason they can do more than regular piss testing. Now I have operated in side this for years all while on AAS and I have seen guys sent to rehab for a hot test on some types of pre work out And 2nd and 3rd test even confirmed this some even tried legal help but if your hot you are hot not mater what and must attend rehab and 2 Times your out. Now as far as better job guys have been to rehab over pre work out to stay and yes most state jobs law enforcement and such you may be ok but let's say it's a little bigger fish and I have been at this 20 years and I make a buck or two at it �� but yes extremely strict. But I love bodybuilding and all the things that go with it and have made it work. And I can afford ug lab that what I have been doing for quite some time I just love that script it's a security blanket. But I have said in my mind to hell with it it's not worth the trouble with the Dr and. Just do as I wish

Yeah I think I will drop some tren ace on it. And eat up.

Originally Posted by txdude316

Yeah cover 100% and as far as the job goes if there is "legit" reason they can do more than regular piss testing. Now I have operated in side this for years all while on AAS and I have seen guys sent to rehab for a hot test on some types of pre work out And 2nd and 3rd test even confirmed this some even tried legal help but if your hot you are hot not mater what and must attend rehab and 2 Times your out. Now as far as better job guys have been to rehab over pre work out to stay and yes most state jobs law enforcement and such you may be ok but let's say it's a little bigger fish and I have been at this 20 years and I make a buck or two at it �� but yes extremely strict. But I love bodybuilding and all the things that go with it and have made it work. And I can afford ug lab that what I have been doing for quite some time I just love that script it's a security blanket. But I have said in my mind to hell with it it's not worth the trouble with the Dr and. Just do as I wish

Gotchya...100% is pretty bad ass..cant beat free! If its a career and not a job than i would def agree with ya...not worth losing it over some gear. Short esters are just fine bro...i pin those exactly like I pin long esters...mon/wed/fri

Originally Posted by txdude316

Lets say the only option you have is short ester test .. What would you suggest for bulk ...teen ace ? NPP? What orals ? Lets also say for 8/12wks cycles. Can you realistically
"Bulk" in such short time. Typically I would run long ester test and deca maybe EQ throw anadroll or dbol on top of that and go 18 /20 wks but this is no longer possible. Any and all advice is welcomed I am somewhat lost and torn about this I really don't want to run. "Cut stacks" constantly. Thanks for the help brothers

Why are long duration cycles no longer possible?

Originally Posted by twisted

12 wks is decent time ....thappy is correct diet is key .....imo test , npp and use both dbol and adrol mix as a kick start for 4 weeks till test and npp start workin ......I think this your question correct ?

The test takes approx 4 to 5ish wks to kick ...npp approx 3ish wks ...dbol/adrol approx 5 days to start .....if your willing to pin test prop for the first 6wks that would help also .....then you have 6wks to get shit done ...

just be sure to have your e blockers on hand brother this is very important .....

Believe it or not, I use Anadrol for cutting (used to use it for contest prep)