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    Thread: New Cycle In Planning. In the Works. Thoughts Advice..?

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      Question New Cycle In Planning. In the Works. Thoughts Advice..?

      Planning my Next cycle IAm SURE its Foundation will be TEST and TREN based.. (I personally like the Short Esters Because I can Feel Understand them Control them Know my Body etc) Longer Esters Just not seem Quite to have done the Job for me. BUT HERE IS what Im thinking first rough Draft..
      *TEST P weeks 1-10
      *Tren A weeks 1-10
      *D-bol Weeks 1-4
      *MastP weeks 2-8 (would Run higher dose on week-#5)- due to absense of Oral fora week-Transition to dbol-Var
      *Anavar weeks 6-10

      *Also Interested in benefits Of DECA/EQ Or Even Sub the Dbol for Anadrol.. May slightly adjust the weeks +/- 1 with the Orals But Did Not Want to Run the Orals for the Full 10weeks..

      Just scratchin down Options n' gettin Ideas Feedback here n' there for now.. I have plenty of Time. Main Concern is how to PCT from tren for First time That Long. thats the next thing after i get the cycle down & Decided the RIGHT PCT for whatever Cycle I run.
      Stats Are 5'10- 200lbs BF: 11approx%

      Goal: Gain Good Lean Quality mass, would Like Definition and some Vascularity. Build some Ab Muscles a Liitle more and Cut as MORE fat in One and Only Problem Area the Lower Abs & Luv Handles.

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      Btw this is the MOST Compounds I will Run CURRENTLY IN A Cycle I will NOT ADD A 6TH. 6 IS too much If i Was Running them All Together at Sane Time.. Or is that somewhat Chaos what I have there and Only Run One oral.. The plan Was to Bulk a Little With the Dbol (or Anadrol) then Kinda Clean up the Dbol/adrol More of a cutting Oral Towards the end, an Oral where the gains Are more permanent and Easily kept.. Thats Kinda the Thoughts or method to my madness on that Cycle I came up with...
      Would maybe consider Running the ORALS for 3Weeks each Instead of the 4weeks each. And Slightly Increase the Masteron for 2weeks Instead of Just one.. Just a little Tweak. Here and there.. So you guys thoughts or subsitutes on Compounds etc.
      Ohh and If this Helps I plan to run 500-600mg of Test a week.
      And the TREN will be at about 250-300mg.

      Past Cycles Test ONLY 750MG.
      DBOL 40MG ED AND test 750mg
      Winstrol and Test at 750mg Per week.
      And A few more Mainly Test And an Oral Cycles.
      This will probably be my 11th Cycle upconing.
      Mistly Ran Dbol and Sustanon

      Given Iam incorporating Tren.. Should I raise the planned Test amount of Test with tren From 500-600 to my Normal 700-750?.. Or keep it at the planned 5-600 area?
      A fella I knew Said he got Tren some sides from the Tren by week 4 and Felt he had to raise his Test some to combat some sides.. So inadition to his TEST Cyp. He Started adding in 75mg of TESTP 3Days a week for little Booster shot.. Helped with Libido and i guess he was experiecning sides with Lower Test while running tren.. Like the tren took sone of the effects away from the Test..
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      How much masteron p?
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      Raising test is only going to make tren sides worse IMO. Not saying 700mg is too much, but if you get sides from the tren don't expect raising the test to help no matter what your friend said...make sure to have estrogen under control. Tren sides are always worse when estrogen is in the picture.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye Forever View Post
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      Not Sure. Yet. As I havent made the order or fully decided if Im incorporating it or not yet.. Doing a bit more research I would Start Low Likely since this is more of a Complimentary compiund to the tren and Test.. Still gathering Info and Thoughts EVEN if I should Run it.. And is it that Synergestic or beneficial.. COULD just run the Tren/Test and just Orals even.. More concerned on Correct Pct as well.

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      Quote Originally Posted by PED Radio View Post
      Raising test is only going to make tren sides worse IMO. Not saying 700mg is too much, but if you get sides from the tren don't expect raising the test to help no matter what your friend said...make sure to have estrogen under control. Tren sides are always worse when estrogen is in the picture.
      Ahh i See... And I think thats really what he actually meant as Far as the Sides.. He was getting Sore.. In the nipples i noticed him getting Moody.. I felt like u said.. The estrogen was coming into the Picture and he was upping the Tren dose slightly i remeber and backed off the test a little... He did not like that. Then upped the Test.. And backed off the tren a bit.. And From "WHAT HE SAID and Appeared" that Estrogen was less of an issue.. The moodieness went away and the soreness of nipples went down.. Bit thats What HE SAYS"... maybe True.. But everyone is diferent and Cant explain fully what the hell he was doing..

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      Hes the type to skimp on PCT.. too.. I think that was an issue.. I see several Guys who skimp on the Pct And Dont even take it sometimes I just think that Is Crazy.. But I see them shrink off the gear.. And tell em.. I told ya So...
      From my Understanding i should Incorporate Arimidex or Start a small amount of Arimidex maybe mid way through the cycle.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mhuddleston View Post
      Hes the type to skimp on PCT.. too.. I think that was an issue.. I see several Guys who skimp on the Pct And Dont even take it sometimes I just think that Is Crazy.. But I see them shrink off the gear.. And tell em.. I told ya So...
      From my Understanding i should Incorporate Arimidex or Start a small amount of Arimidex maybe mid way through the cycle.
      Most prefer aromasin. Either will work. Just me personally I wouldn't wait...run it from day 1. Don't wait for visible problems. Your estrogen is going to be high on a decent cycle if you're not using an AI, regardless if you have symptoms or not.


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      Yea I personally wait and Start thinking AIs Mid Cycle.. A few weeks in. Depending on what Im running too Long or Short acting Compounds. But I usually incorporate small low doses of AIs around week 4. Arimidex normally.

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      yeh i personally run aromasin from the start of my cycle. I'm not a fan of arimidex.

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