Thread: HCG and Gyno?

Hi guys, the purpose of this thread is to make sure im on the right track and not doing anything stupid. After years of reading and research before my first cycle there are still some grey areas where what i read or understand can be a bit contradicting.


So im currently nearing the end of my first cycle. 500mg test e p/w spit into 2 doses. First 4-5weeks i had a dbol kickstart. At around week 3 i starter taking approx 12.5 mg aromasin eod. (For no particular reason other than paranoia lol)

Bloods were done at week 7ish, and i was pretty happy with it, everything was at relatively acceptable levels exept cholesterol which has never been a strong point for me.

Anyway i had HCG on hand and was initially planning a blast at the end of cycle before i was convinced it would be better during cycle than just at the end. So i started as soon as i got my hands on some bac water a few days after bloods.

Ok, so I should point out, that untill this point i hadn't experienced any gyno scares and the bloods backed up that i had nothing to worry about. However over the last 2 weeks it feels like ive developee a bit of gyno. Nipples are definitely puffy and if im correct im feeling a bunched up little lump around the size of 2 cottonballs around my nipples. I don't notice one side being worse than the other, they seem pretty even to me. They're definitely not muscle and it seems to be separated from the fat.

Ok so upon noticing this i uped my aromasin to 25mg per day (about a week ago). My reasoning is thats pretty much what ive understood to do if gyno symptoms show. Now i know aromasin doesn't work overnight but i havnt noticed any increase of gyno in the last week.

So i just wanted the opinions of my brothers here, because well i value it. Have i done the right thing to manage it?
Would i be right to assume its hcg related? Should i stop tge hcg? Should i cut the cycle short and start pct?

But also one thing i would like to know. Is aromasin enough? What should i do at this early stage to help with gyno reversal?

P.s i also have adex on hand and pct consists of clomid and nolva.

Thanks

HCG can absolutely cause gyno! If I take too much while taking testosterone, it flairs up bad. I usually take an AI and add 20-40mg of nolva ED till the symptoms subside. It should calm down in less than a week. Reduce the amount of HCG you're taking.

I feel like there is some truth to hcg gyno. Possibly stimulating the receptor directly.

How much HCG are you using and how often are you using it? I am getting ready for my first cycle so I am just curious

250ui 2x per week day after test pins

this has never happened to me, but id take herc's word for sure. you did the right thing to combat it. but it could of caught up with you bc you werent using an ai at first. always us an ai, unless you actually get bloods with no ai, and you dont need to. also you need to be taking the aromasin at 12.5 morning after food, and 12.5 evening after food. it needs fat to be absorbed, and has a short half life. use herc's nolva protocol. but an even better serm is raloxifene at 60mg a day. i am very gyno prone, and currently running raloxifene for reversal. it is working. also keep in mind it takes a while, you have to be patient. dont stob taking the serm bc you dont think its working. pm me if you have questions, i recently went on a gyno info rampage after a nasty flare from deca.

Originally Posted by Paradox

Hi guys, the purpose of this thread is to make sure im on the right track and not doing anything stupid. After years of reading and research before my first cycle there are still some grey areas where what i read or understand can be a bit contradicting.


So im currently nearing the end of my first cycle. 500mg test e p/w spit into 2 doses. First 4-5weeks i had a dbol kickstart. At around week 3 i starter taking approx 12.5 mg aromasin eod. (For no particular reason other than paranoia lol)

Bloods were done at week 7ish, and i was pretty happy with it, everything was at relatively acceptable levels exept cholesterol which has never been a strong point for me.

Anyway i had HCG on hand and was initially planning a blast at the end of cycle before i was convinced it would be better during cycle than just at the end. So i started as soon as i got my hands on some bac water a few days after bloods.

Ok, so I should point out, that untill this point i hadn't experienced any gyno scares and the bloods backed up that i had nothing to worry about. However over the last 2 weeks it feels like ive developee a bit of gyno. Nipples are definitely puffy and if im correct im feeling a bunched up little lump around the size of 2 cottonballs around my nipples. I don't notice one side being worse than the other, they seem pretty even to me. They're definitely not muscle and it seems to be separated from the fat.

Ok so upon noticing this i uped my aromasin to 25mg per day (about a week ago). My reasoning is thats pretty much what ive understood to do if gyno symptoms show. Now i know aromasin doesn't work overnight but i havnt noticed any increase of gyno in the last week.

So i just wanted the opinions of my brothers here, because well i value it. Have i done the right thing to manage it?
Would i be right to assume its hcg related? Should i stop tge hcg? Should i cut the cycle short and start pct?

But also one thing i would like to know. Is aromasin enough? What should i do at this early stage to help with gyno reversal?

P.s i also have adex on hand and pct consists of clomid and nolva.

Thanks

Stop Using Aromatase Inhibitors to Reverse gynecomastia! SERM's Only!

Absolutely hcg can cause gyno ...herc is dead on .....

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

Stop Using Aromatase Inhibitors to Reverse gynecomastia! SERM's Only!

Great info rite here !!

A serm won't prevent hcg gyno. It's mysterious like anadrol gyno.