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      Orals.

      So far the only oral I have used was dbol. I know that orals are a liver slayer, but damn Dbol effective. Thinking about finishing off a cycle with an oral. I have about 3 or 4 weeks of test E left if I run it at 500mg a week. Wanting some lean mass. I would like your input on your best experience with an oral compound to kinda help me make a decision.

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      Anavar for the win. I like Dbol at low doses but anavar is a much cleaner compound in every way. Easy on the liver, hairline, lipids. No bloat. I'd run it year round if I thought it was any safer.

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      Orals.

      I've never run anavar. I've used dbol enough times to know it will add water weight within a few days, and then you'll be bloated...you will get strength from it though. From my limited knowledge, I would also use anavar if you are set on finishing with an oral. Typically orals are used (IMO) to kickstart a cycle - not finish them. However, does it really matter? Probably not! I also like using Proviron (using PSL right now). Typically you'll wanna use 50-100mg ED of Proviron and I'd spread the doses out. I am a firm believer that Proviron by itself is about useless. It does work well in conjunction with other compounds and will help free up test, give your muscles a dry hard feel/look, up your libido and feeling of well being.

      Anavar may be a more effective oral with a short period of time left in your blast. I've heard from several guys that AEL's anavar is some potent shit. Check it out in Advanced Elite Labs section.

      Good luck buddy!

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      yea the main cycle ending orals are winny, anavar or halotestin some have used tbol

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      honestly i would go with winny at your age you could handle the joint pain and ideally run it for 5 weeks instead of var usually 6-8 and more expensive. everyone responds different but i really like winny just hate the joint pain. i actually get really strong and put on good lean mass

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      Quote Originally Posted by Thaistick View Post
      Anavar for the win. I like Dbol at low doses but anavar is a much cleaner compound in every way. Easy on the liver, hairline, lipids. No bloat. I'd run it year round if I thought it was any safer.
      I actually almost tried Var before. LOL I was considering it because the reduced sides and liver toxicity. Just wasn't sure if it would give me that skin splitting pump that I've come to live.

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      Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe View Post
      I've never run anavar. I've used dbol enough times to know it will add water weight within a few days, and then you'll be bloated...you will get strength from it though. From my limited knowledge, I would also use anavar if you are set on finishing with an oral. Typically orals are used (IMO) to kickstart a cycle - not finish them. However, does it really matter? Probably not! I also like using Proviron (using PSL right now). Typically you'll wanna use 50-100mg ED of Proviron and I'd spread the doses out. I am a firm believer that Proviron by itself is about useless. It does work well in conjunction with other compounds and will help free up test, give your muscles a dry hard feel/look, up your libido and feeling of well being.

      Anavar may be a more effective oral with a short period of time left in your blast. I've heard from several guys that AEL's anavar is some potent shit. Check it out in Advanced Elite Labs section.

      Good luck buddy!
      Never really read up on Proviron. I will look onto it for my next cycle. Thanks for looking out brother!

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      I also use TUDCA for liver support when using any orals. In case you don't already use something...

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      Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe View Post
      I also use TUDCA for liver support when using any orals. In case you don't already use something...
      Yeah I use Liv52. Is it as effective or should I grab some of that TUDCA?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bane View Post
      I actually almost tried Var before. LOL I was considering it because the reduced sides and liver toxicity. Just wasn't sure if it would give me that skin splitting pump that I've come to live.
      Good var gives me very good pumps. My jaw kills me, I can stand the rest but the jaw makes the whole side of my head hurt. Tudca, UDCA is what medical studies were actually done on so it's fine too, I use N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine from Life Extension all the time now, and organic apple cider vinegar is good for gut health (gallbladder, bile ducts) too. If you want to get intensive with running high doses of orals often check out injectable Glutathione. Glutathione is what NAC converts to, but Glutathione isn't very orally bio-available so it has to be injected IM. Look into the Glutathione, it's used to detox chemo patients, removes heavy metals from the body, it's good stuff. Dark skinned people use it IV to bleach their skin but IM doesn't do that.

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