BEGINNER CYCLE- EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW

**peterhesh** · 11-01-2018, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by Starhopper

This all depends on the person and if they are prone to high E2 levels when cycling. I know for my first cycle of Test Cyp at 500mg per week I needed to use 12.5mg of Aromasin eod. I also started with a higher bf% so I was prone to raising E2 levels. Also as for tapering down to 250mg per week you will still need some sort of PCT to bring your natural test production back up. 250mg per week will still have you shut down, hell, 100mg per week after a cycle will still have you shutdown. Either cruise on a TRT dose, or run a full PCT. E2 rebound is not fun I have heard.

What is your recommendation for PCT as I am currently on my first cycle and it is similar to this.

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**Iron Foundry** · 01-13-2020, 08:50 AM

Hey Lads,

I have done PCT a couple of times.
The last time was with a different approach and taper off as well.

After running Test E and Mast E Most of my cycle i changed to shorter esters.
Test P and Mast P for 3 weeks at end of cycle, dropping the ml's weekly.

I was, at this time, referred to a protocol via an Irish doc and i began it with total cold turkey for 5 half lives ..( Prop is between 3-5 days ) so i waited 20days until i had my first HCG injection of 1000iu and then 500iu daily until i used whole vial.
I waited again for 1 week then i began to use clomid/nolva.
Both ED for 2 weeks and then continued nolva ED but clomid EOD for 2 weeks.
Dropped Clomid and EOD Nolva for another week then went off.

Now, I had my bloods done at the crash of my body. That was on the 19th day after my last pin. My test and Mast week of pin was only 1/2 ml each.
I had my bloods done again at 14 weeks and i have had the results checked and am back to acceptable levels on all aspects.

What i did was not for everyone. But is you take a less is more approach and have bloods done, you will be able to gauge your PCT with a better eye.
You cant see what levels your at looking at your arm and ive been there in the hard times as one of my major runs in an off season was terrible. More than ever i take the PCT seriously and i make sure i have liver and kidney support added with looking after the gut.

Im no professional or doctor, but i have done silly things in my 12 years pinning and im just happy that i was able to maintain the levels now that i need when i come off cycle.

Happy to chat with any and all about it as i am new to the forum but keen to help and learn when im not working.

Thanks brothers