Thread: TREN....Different every time. Different every day.

Still somewhat of a tren newb. Only my second run. First run was:
250mg test prop
350mg tren ace
150mg proviron daily
Pinning was daily.
(All PSL EP products).


This cycle is more complex:


525mg Test prop
350mg tren ace (bumped to 525mg at week 6)
700mg mast prop
50mg anavar
50mg tbol
Pinning daily
(All PSL EP products)


First cycle was strange. I remember on day 4 of the tren my world got dark. I had crippling anxiety all day and I could not get out of my own head. I got home from work and sat in my bed contemplating if I even wanted to continue the tren. It honestly scared me.


Was fine the next day and things seemed to mellow out. I was typically calm throughout the day but had mini outbursts when little things pissed me off. Nothing I couldn't control. Generally had a somewhat negative outlook on life and was less social than usual. All subsided shortly after the cycle.






SECOND cycle is currently in motion. I thought I knew what to expect this time so I went in positively. Had a smooth start...no anxiety, no anger.


Week 3 rolls around....my work performance drops a bit. Have a hard time focusing and develop a mild depressed state of mind. Immediately start thinking about my recent break-up. I have a new girl who is amazing but my last relationship was 3 years long and she is currently seeing someone else. I have a moment of weakness and call her and breakdown asking for her back. She tells me she love her new boyfriend etc etc and I threaten to drive an hour to where she lives and pay her new boyfriend a visit. This all came out of nowhere and happened in one day. I was fine until this day. This depression lasts for 3-4 days. I basically harassed her during this time. Called her horrible things and ruined any respect she had for me. I came out of it after 4 days and came to my senses. Blocked her on every device, social media, everything I could think of.


This was about 5-6 weeks ago. I'm good now and love the girl I'm with. I have since upped my tren dose to 525mg/week and still feel "ok". My mood is completely different every day though. There is no stability on tren. One day you could feel amazing and the next you could be the meanest moodiest asshole on earth. Generally I will say that all in all I feel like shit. It's not unbearable but I can tell I'm not 100% myself. I find it difficult to find joy in things I usually like and I'm mostly emotionless unless it's anger. Very similar to my symptoms when I had depression in my early 20's. I will continue to add tren to my cycles here and there. I love the results....and as long as everything is right in my life (which it wasn't this time) I will be fine. But for those who say the side effects are over-hyped...that may be true for you...but for me tren has been a different experience each time and each day is a new adventure.


I'll be sticking to ace for now in case I need to jump ship!


Thanks for listening lol.

I notice more rage with tren A
and more night sweats/insomnia with tren E.

Dang man, that's pretty brutal and I hope the best for you going forward. Are you noticing much more results with the increased dose? My personal experience, and I know we all react differently, is that 400 trenE/week has been providing a good balance of no/low sides (mild aggression here and there, but that's it) and gains.

I should mention that on the same amount of ACE I did have night sweats and more insomnia, aggression was about the same.

We're all about the gains but I'm okay with taking a little longer for the same results if it means I can still enjoy life. Still making much better gains than when natty!

Originally Posted by Somethingclever

Dang man, that's pretty brutal and I hope the best for you going forward. Are you noticing much more results with the increased dose? My personal experience, and I know we all react differently, is that 400 trenE/week has been providing a good balance of no/low sides (mild aggression here and there, but that's it) and gains.

I should mention that on the same amount of ACE I did have night sweats and more insomnia, aggression was about the same.

We're all about the gains but I'm okay with taking a little longer for the same results if it means I can still enjoy life. Still making much better gains than when natty!

Definitely started noticing the increased dose within a couple days. I could feel it in my brain if that makes sense. I just felt more trenny lol. More tense, irritable, and HOT. Workouts have significantly improved. I'm on a pretty decent calorie deficit and at 350mg I was maintaining nicely and leaning out but on 525mg I'm GAINING muscle on this deficit and I'm much much fuller. Vascularity is just stupid at this point. Sides are increased but still manageable. I really don't like the way I see things on tren. I see things in a negative light. I seek comfort in knowing it's just the tren and it's temporary. It's nice to know what's causing it and that it will go away.

Originally Posted by Jozifp103

Definitely started noticing the increased dose within a couple days. I could feel it in my brain if that makes sense. I just felt more trenny lol. More tense, irritable, and HOT. Workouts have significantly improved. I'm on a pretty decent calorie deficit and at 350mg I was maintaining nicely and leaning out but on 525mg I'm GAINING muscle on this deficit and I'm much much fuller. Vascularity is just stupid at this point. Sides are increased but still manageable. I really don't like the way I see things on tren. I see things in a negative light. I seek comfort in knowing it's just the tren and it's temporary. It's nice to know what's causing it and that it will go away.

Instead of "seeing red" you're "seeing Tren?"

That is a good point about knowing what's causing the mental sides. Makes it easier to deal with them for sure. I've taken some tips from the more experienced Tren users on the board and have found myself saying "it's just the Tren, this isn't a bid deal" in my head when that wave of aggression comes in for something stupid. Probably not a bad practice to do anyway. Kinda like counting to ten.

If you can't live normally and your quality of life goes up and down don't use tren you can't handle it mentally. No biggie lots of other ways to skin a cat so to speak.

yeah man.. youll be fine. your connected to the emotions...
first rule of tren.... your intial thought is always wrong.
second rule of tren.... no big decisions...
third rule tren.... don't post on emotional threads, that provoke your darkness....... get that 'dark haze over' feel going...I fuck that up all the time..was bout to go to bed, checked forum, saw a thread. now really irritated. for no real reason.... aint my life that's being fuked up.. that's tren for ya.....

diversion!!! try this for relieving tren related anger issues...hard to be angry wen your singing about butterflys

Die Antwoord Enter The Ninja CHAPPIE (Video Oficial HD) - YouTube

I want to find these white trackies they wear.. any clues....

Originally Posted by Pudin Head

Hey Jozipf,
We have been talking about this on another thread in the aussie forum too. I'm running a blend of testp/tren/mast at the moment. This is my first cycle with tren and I haven't had any bad mental episodes yet. Im on depression medication which may or may not help. But some of the brothers think that running Mast with their tren cycles helps.
This is all just bro science but it might be worth trying some mast and seeing what happens?

I agree with puds...hes all fuked up like me..haha.. nah hes normal!!
im on similar anti depressant meds.... mast is one way...I know I mentioned it b4. I forgot again this cycle added it only days ago....proviron and stana really helps...same with butterflys.... bumble bees and bubbles...

funny thing pud...I only re learnt that my last blast had me mentally fucked in week 3...going thru big tren users thread.. and there is was... my comment on my last blast saying the addition of proviron/stana has helped... chowlum was clicking likes all over the thread like, well like chowlum, 'a bit crazy' on my posts.. I wanted to see wat id wrote. on ya lum!! haha