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Calling everyone on BOP, I need your input! Please read!
Brothers and Sisters of BOP,
Very simple dilemma that probably 50% of us have had. I'm a young guy, cycle on and off for the sake of sperm count. Have one child, want another one. Wife is fine with steroids, but does not want me on anything as we are trying to conceive. (Trying right now) We all know that steroids MAY effect sperm count. But in my opinion, especially with the use of HCG, it does NOT. (Ronnie Coleman has 6 fuckin kids?! lmao) I'm off cycle, feel like shit, training is going way down hill, I need your help! I want to transition from on/off to blast/cruise. Please, post any input you have here, for my wife to read, on using steroids while trying to conceive in relation to conception. Ex: Personal experiences, written articles, facts, myths, etc. Please post! Thanks.
LC
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I have been in the same boat as you. I am young and married and have cycled on and off (in the past) to preserve sperm count. Having done this twice with two successful children this is my advice. Take whatever the hell you want to until you are ready to have a child. When your ready, stop taking everything and start 500iu HCG eod for 4 weeks with 50mg clomid a day. I never took the HCG past the 4 week mark but continued the clomid until we got a positive test. I did this exact thing twice and both times we conceived at the 10 week mark after last injection. Now I have two kids and I'm done so I blast and cruise, mostly blast 
The HCG is going to stimulate the testicles to produce testosterone via mimicking LH signal and restarting the leydig cells which are dormant while exogenous AAS is present . The clomid will directly stimulate LH and FSH production which is responsible for sperm production.
So.
500iu HCG eod x 4 weeks
50mg clomid until she is knocked up.
If not pregnant by week 8 get bloods to see where LH and FSH are as these are directly responsible for sperm production, mostly FSH.
This is my personal experience and SOME science to back it up, but its been a while since I researched heavily behind all of it, but you get the gist.
PS I have some HCG I will give you if you want as I don't need it.
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Originally Posted by
elmo33
I have been in the same boat as you. I am young and married and have cycled on and off (in the past) to preserve sperm count. Having done this twice with two successful children this is my advice. Take whatever the hell you want to until you are ready to have a child. When your ready, stop taking everything and start 500iu HCG eod for 4 weeks with 50mg clomid a day. I never took the HCG past the 4 week mark but continued the clomid until we got a positive test. I did this exact thing twice and both times we conceived at the 10 week mark after last injection. Now I have two kids and I'm done so I blast and cruise, mostly blast
The HCG is going to stimulate the testicles to produce testosterone via mimicking LH signal and restarting the leydig cells which are dormant while exogenous AAS is present . The clomid will directly stimulate LH and FSH production which is responsible for sperm production.
So.
500iu HCG eod x 4 weeks
50mg clomid until she is knocked up.
If not pregnant by week 8 get bloods to see where LH and FSH are as these are directly responsible for sperm production, mostly FSH.
This is my personal experience and SOME science to back it up, but its been a while since I researched heavily behind all of it, but you get the gist.
PS I have some HCG I will give you if you want as I don't need it.
wow man epic post i really appreciate that! you the man brother.
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sure thing buddy. Having kids is one of lifes greatest blessings for sure. I was on and off for 3 or 4 years and didn't have any problems following that protocol.
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I have been on TRT for over 3 years, I have a 2.5yr. old son. Nothing was effected at all on this. I did blast and cruise on and off, but NEVER came fully off due to being on TRT. He came out perfect, nothing wrong and he is the best gift I could have ever asked for... Just my 2 cents worth.
DZ
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Hi Mrs. Loose Cannon.......
But Clark Kent went through this not long ago. Check out his "Started Threads".
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Originally Posted by
FrankTheTank
Hi Mrs. Loose Cannon.......
But Clark Kent went through this not long ago. Check out his "Started Threads".
lmao thanks frank
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I can tell you waht my TRT doc put me on when I told him I wanted to be able to get my wife pregnant: 25mg clomid ED, 500IU HCG 2X per week, plus 200mg Test cyp per week.
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Have you given hmg a thought? Apparently its kind of a reset for your system and you only need one shot. Not cheap though
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Originally Posted by
petemitchell30
I can tell you waht my TRT doc put me on when I told him I wanted to be able to get my wife pregnant: 25mg clomid ED, 500IU HCG 2X per week, plus 200mg Test cyp per week.
thats basically what elmo said too. thanks man, I'm definitely gonna go that route.
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