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      Why Some Steroid Shots Hurt?

      WHY DO SOME SHOTS HURT????????


      High Mg per ML Roids, What you need to know ?

      1. Most hormones have a pretty low solubility in oil.
      2. The primary ways to increase solubility are to
      A) add solvent (BA or EA).
      B) Add an ester to the hormone. The longer the ester
      the more hormone will fit in the oil at a certain mg
      per ml ratio. Conversely, the weight of the ester is
      also factored in the total mg per ml ratio, so while
      you can fit more hormone in, you are getting less
      actual hormone than the mg amount implies. Here are
      some examples:

      Ester actual mg/100mg dose
      test no ester 100
      tren acetate 87
      test prop 83
      test enanth 72
      test cyp 70
      test undecan 63
      nand phenyl 67
      nand deca 64

      This means that if your test cyp says 200 mgs per ml
      you get an actual 140 mgs of test. The rest of the
      weight is the weight of the ester. If that sounds like
      a bad deal you need to understand that test no ester
      is VERY insoluble in oil without going to very high mg
      per ml solvent concentrations.

      This brings up the next point; PAIN!

      Why do some shots hurt? There are two primary reasons.
      One, the solvent ratio is too high. Anything over
      about 10% starts to hurt. BA and EA are VERY
      inflammatory to the tissues. That?s why you want ONLY
      enough to help your oil hold more gear but not so much
      that it causes inflammation.

      The second reason is that the gear crystallizes in the
      depot. This is precisely why water-based suspensions
      feel like hammer blows. The water is absorbed FAST,
      leaving the gear to crystallize in the tissues = PAIN.
      Even gear in oil can do this, here is how it works. If
      you use a low ester weight attached to your gear and
      make the mg per ml ratio SIGNIFICANTLY higher than the
      oil will hold on it's own, what happens is the body
      absorbs the solvent faster than the oil/gear and the
      gear falls out of the solution and crystallizes in the
      depot and WHAM, it hurts like hell. An optimum
      solution has just enough solvent to get more gear into
      solution than you could otherwise, but not so much
      that what I just stated happens. When the ratios are
      correct the gear holds in the solution UNTIL the whole
      depot is absorbed and very little or no pain is felt.
      Just to end this misconception once and for all IT IS
      NOT THE VOLUME OF THE OIL THAT CAUSES THE PAIN, IT IS
      ONE OF THE CONDITIONS STATED ABOVE. You can shoot 5
      cc's of sterile oil and never know you took a shot. It
      IS NOT HOW MUCH OIL YOU SHOOT! So why does everyone
      search for super high mg per ml ratio gear like it's
      the damn holy grail???

      What is too high?

      Well the length of the ester is
      really what determines that but most of us here know
      the gear that hurts and know we know why. All tests
      over 250 mgs per ml hurt, and actually most of the 250
      mg tests hurt too. SOOOO many people want there tren
      at 150-200 mgs per ml. Tren acetate should be at about
      what?? 75 mgs per ml. That is why all the kits are
      designed this way. Do you really think it's cheaper
      for the kit producers to add MORE oil to their kits
      instead of less? One other quick note. Oil is used
      because it SLOWS absorption. THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT
      YOU WANT IN A STEROID SHOT! Less oil does not promote
      the steady state hormone levels achieved with more oil.
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      i cant believe test undec is only 62 mg of actual test of 100mg of ester. i love that shit its real long acting but now the dose will increase to the diagram posted by pain.
      ALL THINGS SAID BY ME ARE FOR ENTERTAINMENT ONLY AND I DONT CONDONE STEROID USE. THAT-GOES FOR PM OR POSTS.


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      MG to MG, no Test compares to Suspension Imo. Suspension is the Best Test one can run on a MG to MG basis..
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      Test-E 500mgs/week.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Biggin View Post
      MG to MG, no Test compares to Suspension Imo. Suspension is the Best Test one can run on a MG to MG basis..

      I agree. More injects daily, but definately worth it!
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      wow great post,, The blend 10 i got 100mg prop, 100mg nnp, and 100mg masterone, hurts like a bitch to the point where i can barley move now i see why they say not for beginners if i felt that pain when i first started juicein i would have not done it !!!!! lol

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      Quote Originally Posted by unclem View Post
      i cant believe test undec is only 62 mg of actual test of 100mg of ester. i love that shit its real long acting but now the dose will increase to the diagram posted by pain.
      Cheer up: the longer the ester, the longer the circulating buildup in your system which definitely changes the playing field

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      Is that NPP on that list? I have a hard time believing that NPP is 67 and Nan Dec is 64. I would have put NPP at much higher than just 3mg more.
      It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.


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      i agree with PAIN & BIGGIN, test suspension is the best gear mg for mg basis. its my favorite drug, followed by anadrol, cyp.
      ALL THINGS SAID BY ME ARE FOR ENTERTAINMENT ONLY AND I DONT CONDONE STEROID USE. THAT-GOES FOR PM OR POSTS.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Biggin View Post
      MG to MG, no Test compares to Suspension Imo. Suspension is the Best Test one can run on a MG to MG basis..
      Just did ten days of susp at the end of my last cycle-had to work it in bacause it was past it's date, and the results were very good, much better than I remember. It's been awhile, but I was very impressed.

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