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T3 advise?
Currently on cycle using HGH also with T3 25mcg daily...how long can you use the T3 for and how do u guys cycle it?
about to go on a cruise in a month
250 test
5ius of hgh
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Agree with the t4 on gh. IF YOU NEED IT!!!
Gh should upregulate conversion of t4 to t3 (t3 is the active hormone). Which is why bloods tend to come back with low t4 but mid/high t3 on prolonged gh use. T3 to t4 ratio is generally used as 1:4, so 25mcg t3 should = 100mcg of t4 as long as your body converts it properly. T4, however, cant really be overdosed: take 1000mcg of t4, your body is only going to convert what is needed to cap t3 levels, which may be only 75mcg.
Im prescribed t4 due to an autoimmune disorder, and only need 50mcg a day to get stable t4 levels, and thus regular t3.
Key to remember with t4 is that HOW you take it largely determines uptake. Ive found the absolute best way is to take it at night when i wake up to pee. This guarantees that my gut is empty and i get the full absorption of it. T3 you can take with food and it really doesnt matter. T4 must be taken without food.
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How do u recommend cycling the T3 or T4? I'm 4 months into a 1 year cycle of HGh
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How is long do you guys stay on the T4 or T3?
Originally Posted by
OffshorePharmaShop.com
Use 100mcg per day of T4, (approximately 25% of T4 converts to T3).
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Ok sounds good brother, what about T3 can it be run that long or no?
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Originally Posted by
TrenMonster
Ok sounds good brother, what about T3 can it be run that long or no?
That's a good question. Cause I have been taking t3 for close to 2 months now with my hgh..
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The reason for taking t4 with gh is that gh upregulates the conversion of t4 to t3.
T4 is produced by the thyroid.
The petitutary produces TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone) which converts t4 to t3.
T3 is what the body uses for metabolism.
This is how the body self regulates.
T4 does nothing for us. T3 does. Gh UPCONVERTS t4 to t3. MORE t4 means more converstion to t3. Taking t4 orally does not shut down your thyroid. Taking t3 orally shuts down your thyroid. Taking t4 with gh lets your petitutary and thyroid relax a little and keeps t3 maximal. Taking t3 with gh shuts down thyroid and removes the conversion process completely, which does nothing for us and if you come off gh and/or t3, you have to wait for your thyroid to bounce back. Taking t4 you dont have a bounce back because the thyroid never shuts down.
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There have been multiple studies shown that exogenous t3/t4 will not permanently shut down thyroid and most come back fully functioning within two weeks. One study showed a patient on t3 for 30 years who had normal thyroid function in weeks. The thyroid is extremely adaptable and long term thyroid shutdown is a myth and has been proven through many many studies
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Yes great question brother i been I been taking my T3 for almost 2.5 months now with my HGH at 25mcg
Originally Posted by
Bullrush
That's a good question. Cause I have been taking t3 for close to 2 months now with my hgh..
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Originally Posted by
elmo33
There have been multiple studies shown that exogenous t3/t4 will not permanently shut down thyroid and most come back fully functioning within two weeks. One study showed a patient on t3 for 30 years who had normal thyroid function in weeks. The thyroid is extremely adaptable and long term thyroid shutdown is a myth and has been proven through many many studies
Right, but there is time shut down.
Lets say youre in an off season running gh and add t3. Eating 5000kcal a day. Then you come off. Thyroid is shut down EVEN MOMENTARILY. You can do a LOT of damage in 2-4w trying to eat anywhere close to your offseason. I know personally when i discovered i had hashimotos before i was prescribed t4. I would look at protein and gain fat while my muscle wasted.
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