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      Question HGH followed by tons of sugar.

      I guess I'm looking to get some feedback or opinions on my HGH protocol as it pertains to sugar and carbohydrate intake. From my understanding, HGH use decreases your insulin sensitivity. For this reason it's best to keep simple sugars to a minimum around time of injection. But isn't HGH active for several hours? So why is it only 45mins-1hr that you have to wait? It's known that you peak around the 3hr mark. So assuming the HGH is active for well over 3 hours, your insulin sensitivity will be low for the entire duration of HGH's activity no? And most people split the dose, so that pretty much keeps your insulin sensitivity down all day I would imagine.....


      Anyways....I've chosen to ignore this information because I like to take in a lot of simple sugars just before, during, and after my workout. Here's my protocol.


      Current compounds:
      -EP Test E 500mg/week
      -EP Deca 250mg/week (joints)
      -EP Cialis 10mg/day (pumps/vascularity/BP)
      -EP aromasin 10mg/day
      -EP T4 100mcg/day (prevent t4 depletion from HGH use)
      I call this a cruise...some consider it a cycle. Do not recommend for beginners and/or anyone unwilling to stay on top of your health.




      -430am wake up
      -500am pin 2.5iu Eurotropin HGH
      -515am eat 1 banana and 1 Belvita breakfast bar (25g sugar)(50g net carbs)
      -545am begin workout sip 16oz Monster energy drink (56g sugar)
      -615am finish energy drink, switch to shake, continue workout. Shake contains (50g protein blend. Whey, Cassein, Milk, eggwhite)(60g dextrose OR 60g maltodextrin)
      -Shake is finished by the time I leave the gym.


      TOTALS:

      -Using dextrose

      141g sugar
      166g net carbs


      -Using maltodextrin
      81g sugar
      166g net carbs



      I've been following this routine consistently for about 2 months now. I really enjoy the pumps and fullness I get from the high carb/sugar intake. I figure timing them around my workout would rationalize it a bit as I would be using up a lot of them.


      But would you consider this overkill? I've remained at 11-12%bf during the entire 2 months.


      Should I be concerned with combo of high sugars, hgh, and the possibility of developing diabetes like everyone says?


      What do y'all think??

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      Do you/have you considered using a blood glucose monitor? It would close a lot of open questions, i would think. I have one for my slin use.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Electromass View Post
      Do you/have you considered using a blood glucose monitor? It would close a lot of open questions, i would think. I have one for my slin use.
      ​Never really considered using one until yesterday when I posted the thread. I got replies on other forums recommending the same thing. They seem to be cheap so I think I'll grab one. Thanks brotha.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jozifp103 View Post
      ​Never really considered using one until yesterday when I posted the thread. I got replies on other forums recommending the same thing. They seem to be cheap so I think I'll grab one. Thanks brotha.
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      I was told by a friend to drink something sugary after pinning GH. I tried it out and I actually feel great, almost feel like I get a pump drinking some pineapple juice after pinning GH. It is part of my routine now.

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      I know you arent saying it but some people reading my think it so I'll just put this out there: What you eat around injecting exogenous gh does NOT effect how the GH works in your body. That only applies to your own GH production (see peptides).

      As far as carbs around Exo GH, over time yes it does lower sensitivity, but the IMMEDIATE response of a GH inject is that it raises blood sugar for most people (some it lowers, I've seen people go hypo on gh, maybe because their sensitivity is too low? idk tbh. its very individual. Best bet - Use insluin and carbs.

      Honestly, people freak out with insulin, but I dont think anyone should be using GH without insulin imo. and not -r insulin, RAPID insulin. -r will lead to worse sensitivity for how long it stays active, where a -log version really wont be active long enough to effect it.

      You dont need much, youre already pretty set up to do it. Pin 4-5iu (these are TICKS, not .4-.5ml) of Humalog at 0530. You wont need to CHANGE anything, and it will prolong your insulin sensitivity by taking some stress from your pancreas. What you're doing is NOT overkill at all.
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      Ok....I got a glucose meter and tried it out. This first test was just to figure out how to use it but I'll post the results anyway....


      4:50 am - pinned 5iu Eurotropin into bicep (it's usually 2iu but missed my afternoon injection yesterday)
      5:15 am - Ate 1 banana and 1 belvita breakfast bar (roughly 25g sugar 50g net carbs)
      5:45 am - enter gym....sip on energy drink (56g sugar)
      6:30 am - finish energy drink, sip on protein/maltodextrin shake, continue to workout. (50g protein, 60g net carbs. No simple sugars)


      So for simplicity's sake we'll say I took in 81g sugar and 166 net carbs within 2 hours after injecting 5iu HGH.


      7:30 am - blood glucose test


      Result - 114
      Range (70-245)


      Will do more, better timed tests to get some real answers

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      Ok a month later I finally got around to doing a before/after glucose test....


      I chose to do both tests fasted to remove all variables to see if HGH really does increase blood sugar.


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      10am - woke up (fasted 12 hours) and pinned 5iu Eurotropin HGH. (Pinned the whole 5iu at once instead of splitting because if there was an effect on blood sugar, I wanted to get strong results.)
      10:30 am - first glucose test
      10:30 am-12:57 pm - continue to fast
      12:57 pm - second glucose test (2.5 hours after GH administration)


      Results below:


      10:30 am





      12:57 pm



      So here's my take based on what I've read/learned....


      After 12 hours of fasting my blood sugar should have leveled off to it's constant fasting level. From my understanding your blood sugar will only drop so low in the absence of food and has a base level that is maintained by glucose production in the liver. So based on this, my blood glucose was at it's lowest, most constant level. It would not have dropped nor risen in the next few hours in the absence of food. Therefore any increase or decrease in blood glucose during this time would have to be caused by the HGH (theoretically).


      So, because my BG only dropped slightly within the 2.5 hours of GH administration....my guess is that the increase in BG (insulin resistance) from HGH is a constant effect of HGH and not correlated to the timing of the shots. So BG will always be slightly elevated during HGH use, not just around the time of administration. Another reason I believe this is because a reading of >100 after 12 hours of fasting seems a bit high leading me to believe there is some insulin resistance occurring.

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      this is why insulin is great. HGH fasted / pm
      then carbs and insulin around workout, and of course also serve to counteract the insulin resistance from constant hgh use. Anything over 5-6iu hgh I strongly recommend insulin to be part of the protocol if not for just health purpose

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      I agree with the insulin being used with hgh I've done both ways but feel better when using insulin with it and if you only use the minimum insulin 3-4 iu's you wouldn't have to change anything your eating or your schedule.
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