Proposed Cycle, Input and corrections would be appreciated! :)

[Jdiggity]

Hey Guys,

Few cycles under my belt, all done for mass.. this one is to get the abs out and maybe compete (fitness)..
29yo
87kgs
BF around 14%
several cycles

16 week planned

HCG 250iu 2x weekly Sunday Wednesday
Asin 12.5mg PW if needed

Test E 350 Split Mon and Thurs
Tren A 100mg EOD
Anavar 50mg ED (first 30 days)
Liver Supp inc NAC

6 week switch

Test E 350mgs split Mon-Thurs
NPP 100 mg EOD
Clen 2 on 2 off introduce cardio Steady state
Liver Supp inc NAC

4 week ramp down

Test E 350mgs split Mon-Thurs
Tren A or NPP still? 100mg EOD?
Tbol 30-50mg ED (for 30 days)
Clen 2 on 2 off cardio Steady state
Liver Supp inc NAC

Stop all Drugs 14 days pre PCT
PCT
Clomid 100/50/50/50
MK677

Jitsu Classes 2-4 times per week (this I cannot avoid)


Please Chime in fellas!
if there is something there that rubbish tell me what and why, save the flaming hahaha and please just educate me.

Thanks in advance!

[VallieFlag]

Everyones different, but I would not change the test dose at all throughout the cycle. It helps to keep the sides manageable and predictable. If you change test dose and start NPP and some side effect comes up, you won't know if its the increased test or the NPP. Also, you shouldn't really do the oral in the middle 6 week section. Do one at the start and the end. Even with liver support you will probably feel lethargic and shitty doing 16 weeks of orals. Test + NPP is plenty strong enough to give you a massive boost without an oral. You should have caber on hand just in case, and of course blood work before and during the cycle to check that your AI dose is correct and that your prolactin isn't getting out of control.
Don't bother running winstrol unless you're around 10% bf. If you want more strength, go with tbol at the end of the cycle. Keep a close eye on your BP too. I know I'm in the minority but tbol gives me really dangerously high BP so stay on top of that.

[Jdiggity]

Thanks brother. Noted. I'll get rid of the Stana mid cycle and maybe keep the test dose around 325mg the whole cycle. I just find 500 mgs on test is plenty for me otherwise e2 rears its ugly head

[VallieFlag]

No problems. Don't forget, everyones different. If my advice doesn't suit you, don't feel obligated. It is your journey after all
Have you used aromasin before and gotten bloods to make sure you were on the right dose or did you just go by how you feel?

[Jdiggity]

I went by feel, but I found that even small doses of Arimdex crashed my estrogen really badly. Matter of fact it wiped the floor with me. I thought it was because I dosed a higher HCG 500iu x 2 a week. Got a bit of gyno which all cleared up after PCT (must have been from the 250mgs of deca) but when I took dex to try and bak it off 0.25 EOD

Mate did I want to die haha

[VallieFlag]

Yeah I had the exact same thing. I took a really low dose and when I got bloods my estrogen was so low it was undetectable. So start nice and low with our aromasin and get bloods if you can. There's just nothing better than seeing the numbers. I'll bow out here. Good luck my friend. Let us know the results of your cycle. I bet you're going to blow up on those compounds.