Thread: Going to begin second cycle Test-P kick Test-C, Deca, D-Bol and need advice

Hello everyone
I'm getting my gear in this week and would like to start asap. I am competing in June and this means allot to me. I am kick starting my cycle with Test-P 100 mg 2x a week first 4 weeks to jump-start, Test-C 350 mg for 12 weeks, Deca 300 mg for 12 weeks, and d-bol for 30 mg for 4 weeks. The problem is I only have my Nolvadex on hand and my Aromasin, and Caber will not be here till next week. Will I be able to start my cycle with nolvadex for about 7 days or should I wait? These take at least a week to kick in right? My last cycle was on Test-c , Winny, and Tren without many issues but this new gear has higher prolactin and esters right? Thanks

Yeah you dont absolutely have to have your aromasin and caber in the first week imo but you are using prop so your estro will rise pretty quick, but I don't think one week of somewhat high estro will hurt anything. (alternatively, wait a week before you start your cycle and just chop off a week at the end).
I wouldn't bother taking nolva for the first week. Deca is going to blow you up and give your prolactin a nice kick in the ass too. If you're competing you probably have experience in AI and caber/prami right? How do you normally respond to deca + dbol? You'll hold a bunch of water most likely. What will your cutting cycle be? test/tren?

Originally Posted by VallieFlag

Yeah you dont absolutely have to have your aromasin and caber in the first week imo but you are using prop so your estro will rise pretty quick, but I don't think one week of somewhat high estro will hurt anything. (alternatively, wait a week before you start your cycle and just chop off a week at the end).
I wouldn't bother taking nolva for the first week. Deca is going to blow you up and give your prolactin a nice kick in the ass too. If you're competing you probably have experience in AI and caber/prami right? How do you normally respond to deca + dbol? You'll hold a bunch of water most likely. What will your cutting cycle be? test/tren?

No I really don't have much experience. My last cycle of test/Tren/Winny I used only nolvadex 20mg a day and I noticed my weight quit dropping on my cut. This will be my first bulking cycle and I do have a Pro Physique trainer to help me out starting this weekend I'm just trying to get info before hand. I have to have everything out of my system 2 weeks before the show. If I can, and my trainer who is very knowledgeable on this show and the subject allow it I would love to run a huge cycle of test and Tren during the comp. I just will need to listen to him and research. I hope my things show up this week I can't wait.

Hmm don't use nolva as an AI. We have better options these days.

Deca is very long lasting in the body and quite hard to recover from. Avoid it on the cycle before the show if possible. You might want to look into masteron. Basically if you're paying a trainer to get you through this, just do whatever he says. If he has competed successfully before and has a great physique, then he is probably just as knowledgable as anyone on here. Pick his brain on what has worked for him in his cuts and see if any of that could be relevant for you. If he turns into a salesman, be very wary.

Full disclosure: I have never competed in bodybuilding. Only MMA, Judo and Sambo.

Originally Posted by VallieFlag

Hmm don't use nolva as an AI. We have better options these days.

Deca is very long lasting in the body and quite hard to recover from. Avoid it on the cycle before the show if possible. You might want to look into masteron. Basically if you're paying a trainer to get you through this, just do whatever he says. If he has competed successfully before and has a great physique, then he is probably just as knowledgable as anyone on here. Pick his brain on what has worked for him in his cuts and see if any of that could be relevant for you. If he turns into a salesman, be very wary.

Full disclosure: I have never competed in bodybuilding. Only MMA, Judo and Sambo.

I'm going to wait for it. Thanks for your help. He's recommending non steroid products but once we train this weekend I'll pick his brain a little.. I think he's got his guard up because he's sponsored. Thanks tho

No problems man, work hard and good luck.

Originally Posted by NevadaRage

Hello everyone
I'm getting my gear in this week and would like to start asap. I am competing in June and this means allot to me. I am kick starting my cycle with Test-P 100 mg 2x a week first 4 weeks to jump-start, Test-C 350 mg for 12 weeks, Deca 300 mg for 12 weeks, and d-bol for 30 mg for 4 weeks. The problem is I only have my Nolvadex on hand and my Aromasin, and Caber will not be here till next week. Will I be able to start my cycle with nolvadex for about 7 days or should I wait? These take at least a week to kick in right? My last cycle was on Test-c , Winny, and Tren without many issues but this new gear has higher prolactin and esters right? Thanks

Personally, I think your doses are a bit to low. Now I'm not saying to go crazy on dosages but if your going to do these compounds I think a "get in and get out" approach is more beneficial. This is not something I came up with on my own, but rather was taught by a Dr. Of sports medicine. These compounds are tricky to time if your windows are small for competition. I would swap out the deca for npp as it leaves the body a lot quicker. Also, running test p to kick things off isn't a bad idea but 200 mg ew is pretty much a trt dosed protocol. I would up it to at least 2xew, making it 400mg's ew.
This approach won't waste your time, effort or liver/kidney function because like I said, your in and your out.
I would also up your Nandrolone dose (NPP) to 600 ew and run your d-bol like you say @ 30 mg ed the first 4wks.
This is just my humble opinion bro.

He has the test C aswell, the test P is just to get the test in his blood for the first few weeks.

Originally Posted by VallieFlag

He has the test C aswell, the test P is just to get the test in his blood for the first few weeks.

True...I missed the test cyp there, but it looks like he's still got that at only 350 mg ew!?! Personally I would double that dosage, or at least 500migs ew.

What I could do is just place another order then on my gear and up the dosage. I really appreciate the advice I just wish my damn supports would show up.