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      2nd cycle suggestions?

      What's up guys I'll be looking to start getting things in order for my 2nd cycle. Everything went good on my first of just test e 500 ew. Now Im finally ready to try a stack cycle .I know everybody has different opinions but I would just like to hear maybe some of you guys suggestions and experience. I would like to try a cutting and bulking cycle.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Skribble83 View Post
      What's up guys I'll be looking to start getting things in order for my 2nd cycle. Everything went good on my first of just test e 500 ew. Now Im finally ready to try a stack cycle .I know everybody has different opinions but I would just like to hear maybe some of you guys suggestions and experience. I would like to try a cutting and bulking cycle.

      no such thing as a cutting and bulking cycle. This has more to do with your diet. Do you want to lean out of gain size. I know we all want to do both but it is easier on you if you decide which one is your goal.
      cutting gear helps keep your size. It is almost impossible to get really lean with out losing some muscle.
      bulking gear helps obviously but your diet is important and watch your bp, lipids etc (you will be taking in a lot more calories)

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      I would pick either cutting or bulking

      I would do test again 12 weeks with and oral either dbol or maybe tbol for bulk and tbol, winny or var for cut. Really it about diet with this stuff

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      Quote Originally Posted by eforce View Post
      no such thing as a cutting and bulking cycle. This has more to do with your diet. Do you want to lean out of gain size. I know we all want to do both but it is easier on you if you decide which one is your goal.
      cutting gear helps keep your size. It is almost impossible to get really lean with out losing some muscle.
      bulking gear helps obviously but your diet is important and watch your bp, lipids etc (you will be taking in a lot more calories)
      ^^^^^yes

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      you can even add a nice and mild injectable like Boldenone with test, If you prefer orals you can use dbol the first month and winstrol/anavar the last before pct

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      Test + an oral is the second cycle to do. Test + tbol is what I would suggest. Or if you're going for absolute maximum strength, you can take dbol. You will get a little bloated, but you'll feel like the man cos you'll blow up. If you want to do an injectible, you could try EQ. It will give you great cardio and slow lean gains. Although it needs to be run for 14-16 weeks, so you might not be comfortable with that length on a cycle yet.

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      Thanks guys I'll do some research on all of the ones mentioned. I kinda wanted to do injectable rather than oral just because of the toxicity of orals. My friend keeps telling me to jump on tren. But I heard the side effects are brutal. And I was thinking to do a shorter cycle like maybe 8-10 weeks.

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      Yeah they most certainly are brutal. There's a reason its the most potent steroid known to man.
      If you badly want to try it, do a few more cycles, buy a bottle of tren acetate and pin 100 EOD. If it turns you into a jerk and makes you unable to sleep just stop taking it and it'll be out of your system in a few days. But that's a while away.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Skribble83 View Post
      Thanks guys I'll do some research on all of the ones mentioned. I kinda wanted to do injectable rather than oral just because of the toxicity of orals. My friend keeps telling me to jump on tren. But I heard the side effects are brutal. And I was thinking to do a shorter cycle like maybe 8-10 weeks.
      Proviron can help with the tren sides, but only to a certain degree. Like Vallieflag said, when you do hop on that train start with Ace. My first run I slowly worked up the dosage until I started having night sweats, insomnia, increased aggression, and acne. Backed it off to the last dose that I was good on and determined that 400mg/week (for me) is the best compromise between sides and gains.

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      Thanks guys that's definitely good to know. I would feel much more comfortable holding off on the tren. Just don't think I'm ready for that one. The test and dbol sounds like a good 2nd cycle. What's everybody opinion on Deca?
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