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      Witch stacks?

      What's up BOP!

      I'm looking for the right meds to achieve my goal of adding mucle mass and getting cut. I'd also like something that doesn't make things look obvious. I hear orals are terrible for you. Not a fan of needles but not sure if i can get around it.

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      Welcome to BOP orals are great with testosterone but first cycle should probably be test only. How long have you been training? Have you had Bloodwork done? How long have you research AAS

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      Quote Originally Posted by ironjulius View Post
      Welcome to BOP orals are great with testosterone but first cycle should probably be test only. How long have you been training? Have you had Bloodwork done? How long have you research AAS
      Been training for about 2 yrs now. 6 months of eating healthy. No blood work done. AAS?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lika81 View Post
      Been training for about 2 yrs now. 6 months of eating healthy. No blood work done. AAS?
      Messing with hormones is serious stuff not just I'm going to take an illegal pill or oil and get huge. It's illegal for a reason but if used properly it's life changing maybe addicting for some overall can be very healthy. I like to be bigger over more cut it fits my personality so I like the dbol, deca mass builders and I can still eat just about whatever no fast food or soda but pork, MacnCheese, biscuits and bakery stuff. If you are set on cutting which in my opinion is more disciple and a hell of a nice look winny, tren, Masteron, anavar are some good ones always use testosterone usually only find oil for injections but they do make patches and pellets hard to find and also not as good IMO

      With all that said keep researching everybody will say test only first cycle I'm ok with adding tbol or var look into pct post cycle therapy

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      It's hard to do both at the same time.

      Bulking or cutting is all about diet.

      You wanna get cut? Go into a calorie deficit and add cardio.

      Wanna get bigger and add more muscle? Eat an excess amount of calories.

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      I guess I'd like to add more muscle. Not necessarily bulk. I'm assuming with the test that you have to shot it?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lika81 View Post
      I guess I'd like to add more muscle. Not necessarily bulk. I'm assuming with the test that you have to shot it?
      Adjusting your diet will help you accomplish this. What you're looking to do is called body recomposition. It takes a fairly long time to do. JohnDoes suggestions of either a bulk or a cut are much quicker. Keep in mind it's all about diet and eating "healthy" is not the same as eating properly.

      My first suggestion would be to hire a diet and possible training coach. You'll get more out of that than you will a cycle of steroids!
      This game isn't for everyone, being big and bloated doesn't make you the man, nor does being 110lbs ripped. If you are not competing, find a happy medium. I was thin once, learned all there was to learn about steroids and got pretty big. Then learned how to eat and I got really huge.

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      Quote Originally Posted by bulk_cut View Post
      Adjusting your diet will help you accomplish this. What you're looking to do is called body recomposition. It takes a fairly long time to do. JohnDoes suggestions of either a bulk or a cut are much quicker. Keep in mind it's all about diet and eating "healthy" is not the same as eating properly.

      My first suggestion would be to hire a diet and possible training coach. You'll get more out of that than you will a cycle of steroids!
      ^^^^^^this

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      Anavar and tbol are the less toxic orals...

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