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      Mid cycle blood work advice

      Hello, just got my mid cycle blood work back and was looking for advice on next steps if any with regard to adjusting AI, ect. I am 6 weeks into a 12 week 1st cycle. I am 42 190lbs about 16% bf lifting about 5-6 days a week. I have been taking 500mg test e a week 250mg split Wed/sat, 250 mg hcg same schedule. Ai is aromotase 12.5 mg eod. Any advice would be helpful, I put my baseline bloods next to the mid cycle for comparison



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      I honestly can't read much of that. It's even blurry when I open the images in another tab and gets even worse when I try to zoom in.

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      Thanks for fixing that.

      Estrogen actual seems like it's too low from what I've been reading and some feedback I just received from a vet on here. To the point where it's hurting gains.

      Are you experiencing any problems?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xtreme4Life View Post
      I honestly can't read much of that. It's even blurry when I open the images in another tab and gets even worse when I try to zoom in.


      I hope this is better I may have to rescan



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      Quote Originally Posted by Xtreme4Life View Post
      Thanks for fixing that.

      Estrogen actual seems like it's too low from what I've been reading and some feedback I just received from a vet on here. To the point where it's hurting gains.

      Are you experiencing any problems?
      I don't feel any problems at all, would it be better to maybe go every 3 days instead of eod with the ai?


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      I'd say go e3d or drop to 6.25. Why does everyone run hcg during cycle? I find that so hard on your body. Im so huge in believing hcg should NOT be ran longer than 4 weeks on the ass end of your cycle NOT going into pct


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      I personally think your testosterone should be higher on 500mg /week split dose - Especially since your estrogen is so low. That means not a lot of test is being converted to estrogen. If your E2 was higher your test number would be lower! Did you get your gear from a sponsor on here?
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      Quote Originally Posted by pythonsweb39 View Post
      I don't feel any problems at all, would it be better to maybe go every 3 days instead of eod with the ai?


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      I think that would be a good place to start.

      The more T you take, the higher your E is going to get. When you T levels are way above the normal range, it's OK for your E levels to be a little higher than normal too. You want to find that balance between keep the E from crashing which can hurt gains and cause problems (which is where you're at now even though you're not noticing other low E symptoms yet), and being so high to the point where you start getting all the other side of the spectrum problems. Unless you're trying to look super lean and dry for a BB comp or something there's no reason to have you E as low as it is right now.

      It's tough to say what your ideal number will be exactly. On 250mg a week (125mg twice per week), my T levels were around 1300 and my E levels were at closer to 50. My Adex could have bee crap too, so I switched to Asin. I was told by a vet that number is fine as long as I'm not seeing gyno or high E symptoms, research I've done seems to agree with that but I'm still going to shoot for a little lower going forward.

      I've been looking for a well researched range...something that says with certainty like....for every 1000 that you T levels are at your E level should be at 30, but I've yet to find that. So we're left to find what works best for us in the meantime.
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      I agree the T levels do seem low on 500mgs a week especially on week 6 so it should be built up in your system. Did you recieve the test from a sponsor?
      Also e3d is good that's normally how I run my ai with good results.

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      I personally think your testosterone should be higher on 500mg /week split dose - Especially since your estrogen is so low. That means not a lot of test is being converted to estrogen. If your E2 was higher your test number would be lower! Did you get your gear from a sponsor on here?
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      Yeah at 500mg a week I've seen T levels up in the 4000's mainly from prop but I have seen it from E and C I'd double check your Test man. You should at least be in the 3000's


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