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      cant find a straight answer, test and tren compete for same receptors?

      let me make it clear. i do not give a single fuck about side effects. im trying to maximize gains by correcting my doses, so knowing that...
      will more test give me more gains or will it block out some of the tren? currently running test to tren at a 2:1 ratio

      i know tren has a higher binding affinity so it should knock the test off the receptors. but what if ur test dose is double ur tren dose

      what has been ur experience with running High test/moderate tren? did u experience more gains with lower test?

      ...i dont wanna waste my tren because my test dose was too high
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      No tren won't stop test from attaching to the receptor sites.
      There is alot of good info but the best is to start from scratch and learn actually anatomy pertaining to the subject.
      Just Google how do androgen receptor sites work and any other general info then start digging deeper. It's really interesting stuff anyway.

      There is also good info about dosages as you just asked.
      There is a point where more does not mean better. Side effects go up and gains don't.

      Back to receptors. Your body will create more receptors. So that's a plus. But you have to consider SHBG binding to the testosterone floating around. It's part of the checks and balances of your endocrine system. Some guys will throw some proviron into there cycle to address SHBG.

      Hope that answers some of your questions. Like I said it's best to read up from scratch and learn how the body Works. It will make ore sense this way.

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      I don't believe in the whole receptors getting over saturated, that's all bro science in my books. Your receptors rejuvenate every 6 hours I believe. Which means they are fresh and ready to take on more


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      Right they don't get over saturated...if you don't have enough the body makes more.
      And the turnover rate is also part of it all.

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      Great info above. Along with proviron I'd also make sure you used Aromasin as your AI on cycle because it will also help with the SHBG issue.
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      i like running test e and tren e at the same dose, and pretty high. i tried low test high tren and didnt get any more significant results. i felt pretty good that way tho

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      Quote Originally Posted by Anzel View Post
      Right they don't get over saturated...if you don't have enough the body makes more.
      And the turnover rate is also part of it all.

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      Would proviron and be very beneficial on a cruise dosage of 100 mg of test e every 10 days?

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      Quote Originally Posted by bigmills View Post
      Would proviron and be very beneficial on a cruise dosage of 100 mg of test e every 10 days?

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      See. That's a good question. I'm not sure there is studies to say one way or the other so we are kinda stuck with the ol "try it out and see what happens" method.
      I would think yes to a degree. But since everyone is different and no 2 cycles are alike per individual.....you will have to try it out and see what happens.
      But if you do bloodwork it can be monitored. And then you will know.
      Pre proviron labs then labs a a month or 2 on proviron then stop the proviron and wait a bit then do post proviron labs. That can give u a good look at what your body is doing.
      And that's being extra thorough with the last set of labs. Probably not needed bit what the hell...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Anzel View Post
      See. That's a good question. I'm not sure there is studies to say one way or the other so we are kinda stuck with the ol "try it out and see what happens" method.
      I would think yes to a degree. But since everyone is different and no 2 cycles are alike per individual.....you will have to try it out and see what happens.
      But if you do bloodwork it can be monitored. And then you will know.
      Pre proviron labs then labs a a month or 2 on proviron then stop the proviron and wait a bit then do post proviron labs. That can give u a good look at what your body is doing.
      And that's being extra thorough with the last set of labs. Probably not needed bit what the hell...

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      Okay if I decide to run the proviron would you be okay with with reading the lab's and giving me feedback? Also would you think if 50 mg of proviron would be enough per day?

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      Quote Originally Posted by bigmills View Post
      Would proviron and be very beneficial on a cruise dosage of 100 mg of test e every 10 days?
      Sure, why not? Prov is supposed to enhance the benefits of test, at any dose.

      Quote Originally Posted by bigmills View Post
      Okay if I decide to run the proviron would you be okay with with reading the lab's and giving me feedback? Also would you think if 50 mg of proviron would be enough per day?
      I'm sure if you post bloods several members including myself would be able to assist you here.

      Quote Originally Posted by 350zsidewayzz View Post
      let me make it clear. i do not give a single fuck about side effects. im trying to maximize gains by correcting my doses, so knowing that...
      will more test give me more gains or will it block out some of the tren? currently running test to tren at a 2:1 ratio

      i know tren has a higher binding affinity so it should knock the test off the receptors. but what if ur test dose is double ur tren dose

      what has been ur experience with running High test/moderate tren? did u experience more gains with lower test?

      ...i dont wanna waste my tren because my test dose was too high
      I think you're over thinking here bro. I get more sides with high test/low tren than I do with low test/high tren. Both compounds will do their jobs in your body regardless what you are running in terms of receptors, the only reason to run the ratios differently imo is due to sides based on how your body responds to the compounds.

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