27 guage needles are nothing short of magical! Who knew? (everyone but me)

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Originally Posted by Revelations

You poor bastard, you been stabbin yourself with them paper clip sized pins haha. I'm just messing with you brother, but for real a couple of the old school vets at my gym were telling me all these stories about "back in the day" when they had to use what was available. I heard a couple 18ga stories haha. Anyways, today we have knowledge and access to everything so no need for that. The bottom line is larger gauge needles are going to cause more scar tissue which if you are committed to this game is a big deal in the long run. The enhanced athlete guy even uses insulin needles:
Injections including Testosterone: My favorite injection needle and site, TRT, HRT - YouTube
I personally just do 21g for drawing and 25-27g for injections, but to each their own
-Rev

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Scar tissue does become a huge problem I cycle through delts, chest, glutes, v glutes, and lats for that reason. Lats are by far my favorite though.

Well how about that, I wasn't the only one after all. I'm using a 3cc syringe, drawing with the 22s and pinning with the 27s quite smoothly. Perhaps a 1cc would work better, I'll have to give it a go. I will admit, it is a slower press, but that's probably a good thing too though.

Anyone else just use 25gs to draw and pin? I find it perfectly fine. Although now I'm intrigued to try a 27 and see if theres any noticable difference.

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Originally Posted by VallieFlag

Anyone else just use 25gs to draw and pin? I find it perfectly fine. Although now I'm intrigued to try a 27 and see if theres any noticable difference.

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Same here, still haven't looked to see who carrys them. But I'll draw and pin with same gauge. Of it'll go thru, then it'll go in LoL.

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Originally Posted by VallieFlag

Anyone else just use 25gs to draw and pin? I find it perfectly fine. Although now I'm intrigued to try a 27 and see if theres any noticable difference.

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I do the same. I switch out the needles and pin with a fresh one.

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I use 27 to draw and pin 1 ml of primo EOD. MedLab supply has what you need.


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I run my test under hot water for a minute to warm it up. Helps it draw out and pin in smooth. I don't think it damages the test with such low heat.

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Originally Posted by bigeyed

I do the same. I switch out the needles and pin with a fresh one.

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I was always switching to a fresh sharp needle to pin, and since I was doing that anyway, switching to a higher gauge when swapping just makes sense once you have them.

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Originally Posted by Gaynz37

Same here, still haven't looked to see who carrys them. But I'll draw and pin with same gauge. Of it'll go thru, then it'll go in LoL.

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While this is true, you can make far more pushing force than you can vacuum force with the syringe. It draws up a whole bunch faster with a lower gauge, while you can push pretty reasonably with a higher gauge.

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Originally Posted by bigeyed

I run my test under hot water for a minute to warm it up. Helps it draw out and pin in smooth. I don't think it damages the test with such low heat.

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I've never tried that. It makes sense though, doubt there's any harm in it.