Thread: Deca & EQ Together

to true..plus it gets old injecting 3ml of oil 4x a week ha..personally i stay away from orals because it kills my lipids and i prefer..
but ya bro depending on your cycle history, u could easily keep the test the same and just up the eq to 600mg..thats my opinion though

Originally Posted by F.I.S.T.

It depends brother.How many cycles have you run? If you're still early in the game then I would wait to add another compound in.The cycle you have chosen of test/deca & dbol is fine for and should produce decent enough gains if your diet and training are in order.

The longer you can make gains with the least amount of gear the better off you'll be in the long run.First,if you can still make gains on a basic cycle,why not keep it this way? Saves you a lot of unneeded expense that could be avoided.Secondly,the sooner you start adding compounds the sooner you body builds up a tolerance for these compounds and the sooner you'll need more to get the same results.Thirdly,you will only gain so much even taking AAS so whats the rush to get there? Why tax your body & organs with unneeded amounts of gear? This is a game of longevity brother,you want to not only be healthy today but tomorrow as well.Knock on wood,ive been cycling for over 2 decades with NO HEALTH ISSUES and I really contribute that to smart cycling and living a healthy lifestyle.

IMHO,stick with your original cycle.If you cant make gains on that,then its all because of your diet or training.

Very very good points here FIST... I've been on and off cycles for a little less then 8 years now... Started out very uneducated unfortunately but have done my due diligence in the meantime to make sure I know what the hell I'm doing to stay as healthy as possible, on and off cycle... Most of my cycles have consisted of test/deca/dbol... I have the hardest time putting weight on and am constantly bulking... I saw your post and thought "well hell, why not add a little something different into my cycle" but your right... I'll stick to what I'm used to and possibly consider switching things up down the road.. Appreciate the input, your ever expanding and never ending knowledge..

if u been on and off cycles for 8 years i would think switching it up would do you some good...try adding in eq at 600mg a week and see how that works for ya..how long do you run your cycles for? if ur gonna go with eq i would go min of 16 weeks..i prefer 20, but it gets harder to recover from the longer ones..

Started around 8, went to 12, then 16, which I stuck with for sometime now... Planning on a 20wk this time around..
So your saying give it a go then huh.. Keep the deca or drop it?? I was planning on bumping my test up halfway through the cycle like I usually do, should I do the same with the others??? Geez, I feel like a damn newb.

Originally Posted by lucky_slevin

Just started running test/deca/dbol cycle two weeks ago at 600/300mgs wk and 40mgs day... After reading this post I was thinking of adding 300mgs EQ into my cycle... Would anyone be apposed to that or do you think I'm good to go... I'll be adding it into my cycle tomorrow so your quick feedback would be appreciated...

If you've been cycling for 8yrs then you have some time under your belt and obviously have the experience so that changes things a little.I would still stick with the above cycle but up the doses a little bit.I would go ...

Wks 1-20 Test @ 750mg ew
Wks 1-18 Deca or EQ @ 600mg ew (I prefer EQ)
Wks 1-6 dbol @ 50mg ed
Adex @ 5,mg ed throughout

Normal pct of Nolva & Clomid

You should still be able to grow like a weed on this cycle as long as you keep training hard and heavy and eat like a bear! I would still wait to add both compounds till later.Like I said,go as long as you can on as little as possible while still making gains.If you've only run test/deca/dbol at those lower doses than just upping the dose and length of cycle will be all you need.Theres no danger of adding both so don't get me wrong,im just saying if can prolong it a little longer and still grow then why not wait? Good luck brother.

The above plan is exactly what I planned my man!! Only difference is my doses were a little lower and I was debating on adding EQ into the mix... After reading your post of course.. Good to hear I've had the right idea and even better to hear from man of your caliber.. Big ups FIST...
I'll raise my test/deca dosage for sure but am still going to ponder the idea of adding the EQ... I would really like to see if it would make a difference this time around but at the same time I know it's in my best interest to listen to you and your advise... Then again you weren't totally apposed to me adding it so.. Idk... Guess it'll just be one of those heat of the moment decisions ( in about 5 hours or so, lol) if I did decide to add it would I want to do 600 like the deca? Less or more?

If you do decide on it I would go with 600mg of EQ and 400 of deca.No need to have both @ 600mg.Plus by keeping the deca lower you lower the risk of deca dick.

Thank you very much for the kind words brother.I too am looking to learn everyday.

Originally Posted by F.I.S.T.

If you do decide on it I would go with 600mg of EQ and 400 of deca.No need to have both @ 600mg.Plus by keeping the deca lower you lower the risk of deca dick.

Thank you very much for the kind words brother.I too am looking to learn everyday.

Seriously FIST, thank YOU so much for all your advise... You've revamped my workout, given me a few new options to consider for my cycle and keep me thirsty for more info everyday... I feel like your the smartest MoFo I know... BOSS!!!

Originally Posted by lucky_slevin

Seriously FIST, thank YOU so much for all your advise... You've revamped my workout, given me a few new options to consider for my cycle and keep me thirsty for more info everyday... I feel like your the smartest MoFo I know... BOSS!!!

You're very welcome brother.But I only pass along info ive read and learned through the yrs through trial and error.The best way to learn is by researching as much information on any given subject as possible and then putting that information into practice and refining it to fit your own personal requirements.Everyone is different and will need different stimuli to reach your particular goals which will greatly differ from another's needed stimuli.

Thanks again for all the positive words.Great to have you here and honored that you find my posts useful.

Originally Posted by F.I.S.T.

If you do decide on it I would go with 600mg of EQ and 400 of deca.No need to have both @ 600mg.Plus by keeping the deca lower you lower the risk of deca dick.

Thank you very much for the kind words brother.I too am looking to learn everyday.

ya man go with the eq 600 and deca 400..u will love it!! oh ya and the test around 750..mmm 20 week cycles :-)
whats gonna be your pct to recover from it?
i just "recovered" from a 8 month cycle..i did 200mcg of tript broken into 50mcg every 3 days with an ai for 4 weeks..i had lab work done 5 weeks post cycle and total test was 515 range was like 300 to 900, but my lh and fsh were still .2
i am currently doing 50mg a day of clomid to see if that helps restart the lh and fsh