Thread: E2 still crashed... 2 weeks no AI at all?

Hey everyone, I posted a few weeks ago, decided I'd follow up. Crashed my E2 on my second cycle (I think overdosed AI, not sure). Please see below for a quick synopsis of my issue...

I am 31 with the following stats :
31,M,194 11%bf


Base, non cycle, numbers for me are :
Test - 349
e2 - 41
SHBG - not tested
Prolactin - not tested.

Cycle 1 was :
400mg Test C (200 e3.5d)
6mg aromasin eod/e3d depending on how i felt
250iu hcg eod

Cycle 2 is :
480mg Test C (240 e3.5d)
12.5mg aromasin eod/e3d depending on how i felt
250iu hcg eod

Current Numbers :
Total Test - 3089
Free > 50
e2 - <5
SHBG - 18.4
Prolactin - 5

Most recent bloodwork is at this link : Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet

Issue Low E2... unable to fix...
First cycle was about a year ago, 12 weeks @ 400mg/week (200 e3.5d, 6mg aromasin eod/e3d depending on how i felt, 250iu HCG eod). Used trusted test/hcg/aromasin source. Everything worked perfect. E2 in line, heavy libido, gained 30 lbs (up to 215) on this cycle, bf increased to 15%.

Second "cycle" (going blast and cruise now because i dont want kids, hate low T, and just cause). 12 weeks in now, same test/hcg source, aromasin source was different.

First few weeks I noticed I just didnt feel the same, and got my bloods done 4/09/17, came in low e2 (<5). Dropped the ai from 12,5 eod to 6.25 e3d. Got bloods done again 5/23/17, E2 still <5, had ed issues, so i checked prolactin levels here, and they came back at 5. I stopped the AI completely.
Got bloods done again on 6/8, which are the ones I posted. Free test is high, total test is in the 3000s, e2 still low, no AI since 5/21/17. Was told to check my SHBG after the prolactin test, and showed an SHBG of 18.4.


So, yes, my test levels have been in the 3000s for weeks without taking an AI and my e2 is still crashed. This is why I'm so concerned lol.

A few things I've heard from friends :
I'm pre-diabetic, or have some type of insulin sensitivity...... When looking at my glucose levels, they are 89.

My blood's too thick, give some blood.... hemocrit is 46.1

I use Labcorp, and sometimes their estrogen readings suck... Maybe my estrogen is too high......I have no acne/waterbloat seems low/minimal/no oily skin....

My body doesnt like this high of test....could be possible, but this didnt happen last time. I will be loweing my dose after this week to 250/week for a week or two, then down to 120-150/week until next cycle.

Let me know what else you need... I was hoping someone would know, as everyone I know seems to be totally dumbfounded.

hemocrit is 46.1

What is your blood pressure?

Many people on 500mg test do not have to take any AI. It sounds like you may be one of them. Get another blood test while running no AI in two weeks and see where you are at.

Depending on your blood pressure I would schedule a blood donation asap. It gives you organs a bit of a rest.

Originally Posted by AnabolicNut

hemocrit is 46.1

What is your blood pressure?

Many people on 500mg test do not have to take any AI. It sounds like you may be one of them. Get another blood test while running no AI in two weeks and see where you are at.

Depending on your blood pressure I would schedule a blood donation asap. It gives you organs a bit of a rest.

Not sure, I will get that done. I wasnt worried since it was in the normal range, is that a high number?

Originally Posted by tmtrebor

Not sure, I will get that done. I wasnt worried since it was in the normal range, is that a high number?

It is a little on the high side but definitely not bad. It is most likely higher than it was before AAS use so I recommend the blood donation to stay on top of RBC, hemocrit, and hemoglobin. If you can afford it pick up a home blood pressure machine. You can get them at most pharmacies and it will help monitor for an increase in blood pressure.

Other than that I would retest in two weeks with no AI and your E2 should be back in range.

Originally Posted by AnabolicNut

hemocrit is 46.1

What is your blood pressure?

Many people on 500mg test do not have to take any AI. It sounds like you may be one of them. Get another blood test while running no AI in two weeks and see where you are at.

Depending on your blood pressure I would schedule a blood donation asap. It gives you organs a bit of a rest.

Originally Posted by AnabolicNut

It is a little on the high side but definitely not bad. It is most likely higher than it was before AAS use so I recommend the blood donation to stay on top of RBC, hemocrit, and hemoglobin. If you can afford it pick up a home blood pressure machine. You can get them at most pharmacies and it will help monitor for an increase in blood pressure.

Other than that I would retest in two weeks with no AI and your E2 should be back in range.

got it booked anyway, why the hell not. save some lives, give me some reset. thanks man.

25mg of aromasin crashes my estrogen. You have to wait until your enzymes replenish. It takes me about 2 weeks to recover.