Old guy cycle

[Oldude]

Age: 53
Weight: 200
Height: 5’9”
BF%: 20%
Years of Training experience: 15yrs (off and on)
# of previous cycles: 1 (Test-c/dbol 20 yrs ago)
Diet Plan: Low carb/keto
Cycle Goals: Regain some youth and look and feel better/bigger.

Been on this website seems like 8 hrs a day researching and formulating a plan.
I have test-e (300mg), Dbol (20mg), adex, aromisin, nolvadex, and clomid in hand. I also have some HCG left over from that disastrous HCG diet.
This is my plan, really appreciate any advice on how you older dudes see this.

Cycle:
Wk 1-20: 450mg test-e (150mg Subq inj M-W-F)
Wk 1-5: 40mg Dbol (20mg Pre workout, 20mg pre bed
Wk 1-20: Aromasin 12.5mg E3-4D if needed
PCT:
Wk 22-23: Nolva 40mg ED
Wk 24-25: Nolva 20mg ED

I have pre cycle bloods already and an order for bloods that I’ll have done at week 5, 10 and 15. Then I’ll get bloods done around week 25-26 just so I can stay ahead of any problems.
Current test level is somewhere between 150 and 370 depends on which test I look at between Privatemd and labsmd.
I know I’m carrying a little more BF than I should, that’s part of the reason for the subq injections. My research led me to believe sides are generally lower subq vs IM.
Let me know what y’all think.

Thanks

[bulk_cut]

PLEASE TAKE MY ADVICE....

Do not run any of that gear yet. You suffer from low testosterone and should get put on TRT by a Dr. That alone will make you feel soooo much better and help you accomplish your goals. If you took steroids now you would feel better while on them ut as soon as yoj stopped youd start feeling bad again and loose all of your gains. There's no point in doing a PCT at those numbers because your body is at the point where it's only going to produce a certain level and that level is to low. You should go back and get another blood test done from privatemdlabs.com but get the femail hormone pannel done this time so it checks Estrogen as well. Make sure to go around 9:00 AM and when You get the results back look to see where your esteogen is and take all of your results to a Dr. I find Urologist's seem to be the most helpful but you could also try your GP.

If you don't have success with the first Dr go to another one. Some just aren't familiar with hormone replacement yet.

Make sure you and your Dr always pay attention to estrogen number. It's VERY important and the older you get the chances are the higher it will get.

[reedcusa]

For your goals and age, I'd seriously consider adding hgh. I've been cruising at 250mg/week test cyp and 3.3iu/daily of hgh for 6 months now. started at 215 20+% bf at 5'8" 56 y.o. . I'm now at 205 12% bf and still seeing weekly progress. With no change in diet. Also feel and look at least 10 years younger.11.jpg

[Oldude]

Thanks for the replies guys. Unfortunately I'm retired military and under the wonderful health care of the VA. I have tried to convince them I'm a candidate for TRT but they see my levels as normal for my age, so they won't even consider it. The HRT clinics in my area have horrible reviews on the internet and from acquaintances that have used them BTW they only offer the pellets no injections. I figured I'd eventually be conducting my own TRT therapy and I'm OK with that.

@reedcusa- Brother if I could afford HGH I'd be all over it. Maybe some day.

Back to the cycle....does it look OK. If the PCT doesn't make sense I'll eliminate that and just cruise at the end of this cycle.

[NightHawkDC2]

@reedcusa- Brother if I could afford HGH I'd be all over it. Maybe some day.

Maybe consider MK677. It's marketed as a SARM & been shown to increase endogenous HGH release.

[cajun504]

I use the VA too man, they want to stick me with 200 mgs of test every 2 weeks, I said thanks but no thanks. If you don't mind paying for it yourself there are clinics out there, I spend under $1000 every 6 months. PM me if u need anything.

[Anzel]

Yeah u can actually do all your labs with a trt Dr in another state and they may do a phone consultation and prescribe.
I did this but honestly I got tired of buying test for double or triple what I can get from a ugl that is reputable.
If you go the self trt route you can save lots of money and blast whenever you want...but you still need to be on top of your labs.

Good luck
Anzel
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[Looseunitwa]

Yup got the trt route yourself champ. Pin once a week say 200mg test and go from there. Promise you will never look back.

[Oldude]

Ok...After alot of research and debating HRT and the ridiculous prices, I decided to go about this on my own and just start with the recommended first cycle.

Stats: 53 yr old Male
5'9", 210# about 22%BF

250 mg Test-E every 4 days
25 mg Dbol daily/pre-workout (wk 1-6)
6.25 mg Aromisin on injection days.

Began this cycle on Mar 15.

Diet is 90% on point. My work doesn't allow me to eat perfect all the time, but I do what I can to eat right. I try to limit carbs to 50-75 grams per day. Appx 100gm protien /day. Moderate fat intake. Not exactly Keto but the low carbs have allowed me to drop a decent amount of fat.

I got pre-cycle BW in Feb. Then I got BW after using up the first vial of test-e from a now banned sponsor. The sample was taken on the morning of the day of my next injection. Based on the numbers I believe the stuff was truly underdosed. I did gain some size and strength so it wasn't bunk at least.
I've just started another vial from a different sponsor. I'll get BW again in a few weeks just to see if there is a difference. Total length of this cycle will be 20 weeks. Then I'll cruise on 200mg per week for awhile.

So far no regrets. I feel better, libido has returned, and I'm just in a better mood, even my wife is noticing the change.

Based on the second set of bloods, is there anything I need to tweek. From the info I've gain on this site I think things are looking OK..what say you??

Thanks

BWFeb2017pg1.jpgBWFeb2017pg2.jpg Pre-cycle

BWApr2017pg1.jpgBWApr2017pg2.jpg 5 weeks in

Forgot to add, last week I added 12.5 mg per day of MK-677 to the mix. Plan on upping to 25mg after I see how my body reacts to it.

[moprmac]

Looks good, but might want to ease up on the aromisin, just make sure you don't knock down E to much or it'll hurt your cholesterol worse. Have you tested lipid panel?
Make sure your getting cardio, NAC about 600mg/day or Tudca and then just stay trt with test c around 200mg/wk. Have you been checking blood pressure? I run tadalafil about 10mg/day to help with bp also.