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    Thread: First Cycle: 400mg Test E

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      Wink First Cycle: 400mg Test E

      Goals:
      Looking to put on mass while minimizing fat gain.

      Pre Cycle Stats:
      Age: 27
      Height: 5’7
      Weight: 182-185lb
      BF%: 13-17%? Abs slightly faded

      Diet:
      Calories: 4200
      Carbs: 500g minimum
      Protein: 181g minimum
      Fiber: 40g minimum
      Fish Oil: 2g
      CoQ10: 200mg

      Training:
      4 years training experience with a focus on powerlifting.
      PR’s include meet legal 420 High Bar Squat/265 Pause Bench/455 Beltless Deadlift (stiff bar).
      I am conservatively within 5% of hitting these numbers.
      Upper/Lower/Cardio split with one off day.

      Cycle:
      250mg Test E 6 weeks
      400mg Test E 12-15 weeks (200mg pinned mon/thu)

      Post Cycle:
      The plan is to cruise TRT or slightly high as I felt amazing on 250mg and I don’t mind pinning weekly every 5 days a few years ahead of when I would most likely be needing it anyway.

      Progress:
      The first six weeks of 250mg went well and I just got a little acne and my libido was insanely high. Acne got better by switching soaps/moisturizers. 3 weeks into 400mg I was sitting at steady 189lb and went up to 191-194 during week 4 with acne worsening, and my libido/energy gone. Clearly, estrogen got to high. At the end of the week I started taking .5mg anastrozole everyday until my morning wood came back (5 days) and then lowered it to .25mg EOD for about a week but the wood was gone again so I increased it to .5mg EOD which I probably should have done in the first place. It's been about a week and a half at .5mg and the wood situation hasn't gotten much better.

      Also, I considering donating blood as the last few weeks I've been told I snore a lot and had issues staying asleep and sometimes wake up as if I was choking on something. Since they screen you before donating that would cover bp check, cholesterol, iron check, etc.


      QUESTION:
      I am thinking of going to .5mg ED/1mg EOD until it's back and then cutting it to .5mg as .25 was too low the first time around. Getting blood-work at this point is to check estrogen is an option as lvls have stabilized but is it really worth. I did not get pre-cycle blood work as my doctor said it was unnecessary as I'm young and perfectly healthy so I started without it (didn't know about 3rd party testing a few weeks ago). Opinions on dialing in estrogen?


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      The doctor I would go to is a family friend and I was recently assigned a doctor through insurance which will likely do full blood-work since I have not had one done before. Saving that for post cycle.
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      those doses sound way to high. It will completely kill your estrogen. Only way to know is bloodwork

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      Don't wait until post cycle for bloodwork. You should get it done pre, during and post cycle

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      Quote Originally Posted by vzzbks View Post
      those doses sound way to high. It will completely kill your estrogen. Only way to know is bloodwork
      Thanks man. Since the recommended starting amount is normally .5mg EOD from day one I was assuming it was already pretty high since I was having wood issues.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Cratos View Post
      Thanks man. Since the recommended starting amount is normally .5mg EOD from day one I was assuming it was already pretty high since I was having wood issues.
      i usually go by my morning wood.. if u wake up and ur shits hangn somethns not right.. if u been hitn alot of ai than its more than likely low e... if u wake up and ur shits up than def somethns right... now thats only one step in figuring it out..

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      Quote Originally Posted by puff View Post
      i usually go by my morning wood.. if u wake up and ur shits hangn somethns not right.. if u been hitn alot of ai than its more than likely low e... if u wake up and ur shits up than def somethns right... now thats only one step in figuring it out..

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      I thought I wasn't taking enough since 5 days of .5mg got it going and then I dropped to .25 EOD and I lost the wood. -_- I also am somewhat bloated which I wasn't about a week ago.
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      only way to know for sure is bloodwork, but that much adex will pretty much give you zero estro which is not good. also, there are other factors to consider besides the estro that might be causing the issues you're having

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      Gonna get bloodwork this week 48 hours post injection.

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      Blood was drawn about 49 hours post injection and after a 12 hour fast. Not sure how I should proceed going forward with the AI. Been on it 4 weeks at what amounts to .5mg EOD. Should I keep it at that dose and my numbers will lower or I should up it to .75mg or 1mg? Also, seems like a good time to donate blood. Any opinions or thoughts would be appreciated on these or the overall bloodwork.
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      I'm surprised your E is that high on .5 eod, but it's not super high. How do you feel?

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