Thread: 250 test 600 NPP. No need for an AI/caber. Am I understanding this right?

I have AI and caber on hand in good quantity but here are the reasons I think I wouldn't need either on this kind of cycle.

No need for or very low dose AI because.. on 250 test I dont really require an AI and NPP only aromatizes 20% the rate of testosterone.

No need for caber because it generally becomes elevated on 19 nors due to side effects from the high test aromatizing and allowing for more prolactin on 19nor runs.

meintenance dose of Test --> low estrogen conversion --> reduced production ofEstrogen --> reduced production of prolactin.


I think we are all past the whole you need to run test greater than deca or it will shut you down thing right.

thanks guys

What is your reason for running test so much lower than npp?

Let NPP do the work. Also potentially use low to no need for ancillaries like caber/aromasin.

took the plunge yesterday. I pinned 200 mg NPP and 87.5 mg Test E. will do this MWF

Test E is already in my system so no need to switch to prop. Also having a hard time not pinning extra test

I am going to add 600mg masteron E to cycle. I am confident with this addition an AI will be unneccery. I will get blood work at week 4-5 instead if i dont get bad side effects just to make sure the Mast E is in full effect.


Enhanced athlete just release a video advising 800+ deca with no test at all as a lean mass protocol. Interesting because docs do precribe deca without test and there are no reports of erectile dysfunction.

That is absolute bs 800 mg of decca w not test caber ai= 100% recipe for limp dick and to lean out why would u consider 800 mg of decca you could have jennifer lopez and nikki minaj goin down on you with that gurantee you wont go up or even have drive to wanna do it

Yes masteron or good proviron to your cycle will help w estro sides somewhat and keep libido threw roof but that 800 mg of decca w no test is crazyness my man so many beautiful compounds to cut why try and make one thats not made for it do a job not supoost to and risk serious sexual sides

Npp is great compound i can use it in and out quick stacked w prop eveytime is phenominal but reg decca i cant even look at bottle gives me li.p dick lot of my other bros agree as well everyone body is diffrent rwacts diffrent but my opinion can agrre to disagree