Trying to run first little cycle in 7 years.

**go hard or go home** · 08-03-2017, 01:09 PM

So I am currently on TRT the past 4 months, and am now thinking of running some Dbol (oral) any recommendations on how much since it's been so long? Also currently on Var but not getting much from 50mg a day so I am going to stop it. Give me some help fellas, again I have done AAS before just been a while. Also what should my PCT look like? Already take Anastrozole 0.75 Mg both one day and 3 days after injections.

**go hard or go home** · 08-03-2017, 03:59 PM

Bump.

**VallieFlag** · 08-03-2017, 04:04 PM

25mg is a good starting point. Doesn't take too too much to get a little boost depending on how you react to it. You might find you need 50 though.
Also no PCT if you are on TRT.

**go hard or go home** · 08-03-2017, 04:09 PM

Valley should I at least do some Milk Thistle to help with the liver? Do you thing Dbol is a good one to try being I am seeing nothing from Var?

**One Hairy SOB** · 08-03-2017, 04:45 PM

With any oral cycle, I would suggest TUDCA 500mg-1000mg per day at the very least. Take a look around, there's some decent all in ones out there.

I'm one for starting slow. With that said, you might want to take a look at Tbol over Dbol since it's been 7 years. It won't pack on the quick size, but the gains will be more keepable since you won't put on a bunch of water. Just a thought.

**vzzbks** · 08-03-2017, 05:13 PM

liv 52 for the liver when you're taking orals

**go hard or go home** · 08-03-2017, 06:10 PM

How is TBol on side effects?

**bigt87** · 08-03-2017, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by go hard or go home

How is TBol on side effects?

Pretty minimal. Less water retention than dbol. If you want to make some gains bro why don't you up your trt dose for a couple of months to 500-750 and throw in the tbol. As far as a little light cycle you don't need all that liver support and stuff man.... if you're running orals heavy I mean heavy then yeah but just save your money. I've ran countless orals even harsh ones and have never had super elevated liver enzymes on blood work. Slightly out of range that's it.

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**bigt87** · 08-03-2017, 06:18 PM

And dbols water retention isn't THAT bad I mean yes you hold water but if diet is in check electrolytes are balanced and estrogen isn't crazy high then you'll be fine if you can't get the tbol. You want estro slightly elevated to make some good gains just not off the charts so don't overdo the AI either

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**go hard or go home** · 08-05-2017, 04:05 AM

Thanks for the info fellas, really appreciate it. Big t87, I was actually going to ask my Dr to see if he can up my dosage as I pin on Tuesday and usually by Sunday I am way down again. Right now he has me at 1ml once a week and wanted to ask if he would do .75 or 1ml twice a week but not sure he will go for it. I get my next Labs in 2 weeks and will go in on Monday for them as I am sure my TRT levels will be tanked by then lol. If he doesn't up me I was thinking of getting something to supplement it for 8 weeks before next Labs, what's your thoughts?