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You're running a good amount of test and three compounds that convert to estrogen with no AI support. You're dbol dosage and time frame is off. Your cycle should look like something below.
1 - 12 Test E 500mg per week - 250mg 2x per week
1 - 12 Deca 400mg per week - 200mg 2x per week
1 - 4 Dbol 20mg - 30mg per day - I'd personally start with 20mg and bump to 30mg if necessary.
1 - 18 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD - You may need to add more since it appears you're estrogen sensitive and you're running 3 wet compounds
1 - 14 Caber 0.5mg E3D - This may not be necessary if your estrogen is in check, but since you appear to be estrogen sensitive, it might be needed
11 - 14 HCG 1000ius - 500ius 2x per week
15 - 18
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
I'd suggest you run TUDCA at 500mg per day, dosed 2x per day (250mg per) 3 hours away from your dbol dose. This will help with your liver health. It should be ran all 4 weeks while on dbol and at least 2 weeks after.
Make sure you get bloodwork prior to starting your cycle, at the 6 week mark to see how your doing and 2 weeks after PCT to see if you're recovering.
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Originally Posted by
Sqwuidd
Welcome man- I would be happy to guide you - feel free to message me and we can chat.
3000IU og HCG per week is way too high - I pin 250IU 3x per week on cycle and my nuts are like grapefruits -plumpy and nice.
Hit me up
😂😂😂 well damn bro 😂😂😂 beats my raisin nuts 😂
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Originally Posted by
One Hairy SOB
You're running a good amount of test and three compounds that convert to estrogen with no AI support. You're dbol dosage and time frame is off. Your cycle should look like something below.
1 - 12 Test E 500mg per week - 250mg 2x per week
1 - 12 Deca 400mg per week - 200mg 2x per week
1 - 4 Dbol 20mg - 30mg per day - I'd personally start with 20mg and bump to 30mg if necessary.
1 - 18 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD - You may need to add more since it appears you're estrogen sensitive and you're running 3 wet compounds
1 - 14 Caber 0.5mg E3D - This may not be necessary if your estrogen is in check, but since you appear to be estrogen sensitive, it might be needed
11 - 14 HCG 1000ius - 500ius 2x per week
15 - 18
Clomid
50/50/25/25
Nolvadex
40/40/20/20
I'd suggest you run TUDCA at 500mg per day, dosed 2x per day (250mg per) 3 hours away from your dbol dose. This will help with your liver health. It should be ran all 4 weeks while on dbol and at least 2 weeks after.
Make sure you get bloodwork prior to starting your cycle, at the 6 week mark to see how your doing and 2 weeks after PCT to see if you're recovering.
i can't thank you enough for the time you took out of your life to help me out on this!!! Much appreciated!!! I'm waiting on labs currently so I'll have my starting point. I'll post them once I get them... then I'll post the after 6 weeks lab results and post lab results too... I already know I'm starting off low.. just want the labs before I get started to know where I'm at..
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Kind of generic looking results... I guess I expected more details? But at least I know where I'm starting off at...
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Originally Posted by
Cowboymike
Kind of generic looking results... I guess I expected more details? But at least I know where I'm starting off at...
You're numbers are inaccurate due to the time your sample was collected, but I have no doubt your natural test levels are in the 200's.
Did they only check your test levels? I would be a good thing to get a starting point on your estrogen, LH, FSH, prolactin, CBC and metabolic panel. Then you have a great tool to compare to at the end of your cycle to see if you recovered.
Have you consider talking to your doctor about TRT? You would be a prime candidate with those numbers. I understand TRT may not be an option due to insurance, competent doctors, finances, etc. But it may be worth looking into before going on a full blown cycle. Just throwing that out there.
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Why did you not hire a Trainer or anything and run something like that for that long. Oh well that's done but plz tell me your Donating Blood a lot. You really need a full Blood Panel run before you jump off into anything, this is advise to be healthy man not downing you. Ask anyone I like to help.
VIKING KING
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Originally Posted by
One Hairy SOB
You're numbers are inaccurate due to the time your sample was collected, but I have no doubt your natural test levels are in the 200's.
Did they only check your test levels? I would be a good thing to get a starting point on your estrogen, LH, FSH, prolactin, CBC and metabolic panel. Then you have a great tool to compare to at the end of your cycle to see if you recovered.
Have you consider talking to your doctor about TRT? You would be a prime candidate with those numbers. I understand TRT may not be an option due to insurance, competent doctors, finances, etc. But it may be worth looking into before going on a full blown cycle. Just throwing that out there.
Yeah they only tested the test levels. But then did thyroid and a whole crap ton of other stuff including liver and other stuff... everything other than test was normal... no estrogen levels were tested or anything like that though...
ive actually put my cycle on hold.. I wanted to get back into it.... this was why I was waiting on the labs before I started throwing money around... TRT is definitely a goal. Insurance won't be an issue. I've made an appointment with a normal primary care physician... but he won't see me until Sept 28th.. I have a consultation with a more "progressive" doctor tomorrow. Who I'm hoping will be on board with my wanting to not just get to normal levels, but to the higher end of the spectrum... it'd be nice if I'm able to just be straight up with him about what I want to do and get dialed in on a good program I can cruise at and then blast, with my being able to be honest about it... it's a consultation and if it's not a match or I'm in dreamland, I'll start over fresh with a different doctor and just get a feel for what cruising will be like and figure out how to blast in between tests..
ive seen recommended labs here in the forums. I will wait to see what the doc says tomorrow. If I go with him he's going to pull all that anyway I think. If not, I'll do it through the online referral and just pay the money. I will definitely use your advice on what labs to get. I appreciate the input and the time you gave to responding!! Thank you brother!
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Originally Posted by
Ragnor
Why did you not hire a Trainer or anything and run something like that for that long. Oh well that's done but plz tell me your Donating Blood a lot. You really need a full Blood Panel run before you jump off into anything, this is advise to be healthy man not downing you. Ask anyone I like to help.
VIKING KING
I'm very thick skinned brother ;0) never hold back with me. I won't take it personal. I'll always give an ear. Just be straight up. If I did something stupid or I screw up, don't hold back. Lay into me. I'll listen and without getting butt hurt at the delivery of information.
But to answer your question: because, in my past, I've just jumped into things without thinking them through... I did ask questions from others (I had no idea places like this even existed) and the priority just seemed to sell sell sell... I took the advice given without researching on my own... I did this to myself. Like an idiot... I did zero research. I knew better. But I just did it anyway... but it's done. Only thing I can do is be smarter about how I move forward... research research research... gain wisdom on the dos and donts from those who have the experience and wisdom to share...
ive actually never given blood before... is this a recommended thing to do? I can set that up as well..
keep in mind though I'm about to go the trt route.. it's my thought to keep things jacked up until I know if they're pulling labs again or not? If that's a stupid thought process, feel free to educate me ;0) I'm all ears to anyone willling to invest the time!
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Originally Posted by
Cowboymike
Yeah they only tested the test levels. But then did thyroid and a whole crap ton of other stuff including liver and other stuff... everything other than test was normal... no estrogen levels were tested or anything like that though...
ive actually put my cycle on hold.. I wanted to get back into it.... this was why I was waiting on the labs before I started throwing money around... TRT is definitely a goal. Insurance won't be an issue. I've made an appointment with a normal primary care physician... but he won't see me until Sept 28th.. I have a consultation with a more "progressive" doctor tomorrow. Who I'm hoping will be on board with my wanting to not just get to normal levels, but to the higher end of the spectrum... it'd be nice if I'm able to just be straight up with him about what I want to do and get dialed in on a good program I can cruise at and then blast, with my being able to be honest about it... it's a consultation and if it's not a match or I'm in dreamland, I'll start over fresh with a different doctor and just get a feel for what cruising will be like and figure out how to blast in between tests..
ive seen recommended labs here in the forums. I will wait to see what the doc says tomorrow. If I go with him he's going to pull all that anyway I think. If not, I'll do it through the online referral and just pay the money. I will definitely use your advice on what labs to get. I appreciate the input and the time you gave to responding!! Thank you brother!
Unless your going to see a Sport's Medicine Dr or an Anti-Aging clinic wouldn't just tell them. Drs don't want to know because than you become a liability to that Dr. If they ask be honest other than that as long as it's not life threating they don't want to Really know. You have play Drs by ear. I'm giving you this advice because ask anyone who's been upfront with a Dr they don't know, they will advise the same.
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