Thread: Second Cycle Options: 500mg Test E or 500mg Test E/300mg Deca

The cost thing kinda evens out though with the consideration that you can run less npp for the same desired effect and you don't have to run it as long either. I've found deca shuts me down waaay hard for some reason and I always bounce back from npp much faster


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Originally Posted by kaneman

The cost thing kinda evens out though with the consideration that you can run less npp for the same desired effect and you don't have to run it as long either. I've found deca shuts me down waaay hard for some reason and I always bounce back from npp much faster


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I might be wrong but the only difference is the ester weight I believe. For example, test prop is 25-30% more effective then Test E or C because it has that much more test in it. What's your experience been?

Originally Posted by bulk_cut

For you, the big difference is going to be Deca lingers in your body for a long time and can make recovery difficult if you're not on TRT. NPP is in and out of your system quickly and don't have to worry about it affecting your PCT. IMHO NPP is a far superior product for people like you. It is definitely worth the extra money and if cost is an issue you whould save up a little longer for it.

I also suggest 500mg/test/week and 400mg/NPP/week. You won't need caber but will an AI which i suggest using Aromasin on cycle AND during PCT.

GOOD LUCK!!!

Thanks for the input man! I'm not on TRT but am strongly considering blasting and cruising as fertility is not an issue for me. I got a vasectomy earlier this year with the birth of my boy.

I know the whole caber prolactin prolactin myth is due to high estrogen but I got 8 tabs just in case I would need it one day (like if an AI is bunk). Arimidex worked real nicely with the first cycle. Would you still suggest aromasin through the cycle if someone wasn't doing a "pct"?

Originally Posted by Cratos

I might be wrong but the only difference is the ester weight I believe. For example, test prop is 25-30% more effective then Test E or C because it has that much more test in it. What's your experience been?

propionate is about 80% of hormone the rest is the ester the Enanthate is more or less 70% ,the Cypionate is more or less 69%

Originally Posted by korsaire

propionate is about 80% of hormone the rest is the ester the Enanthate is more or less 70% ,the Cypionate is more or less 69%

Thanks for the clarification. I knew those two were around 70% but heard prop was 95+%, I didn't fact check it.

Originally Posted by Cratos

Thanks for the clarification. I knew those two were around 70% but heard prop was 95+%, I didn't fact check it.

Korsaire nailed the Ester weights, Prop is 20% ester weight.

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Originally Posted by Cratos

I might be wrong but the only difference is the ester weight I believe. For example, test prop is 25-30% more effective then Test E or C because it has that much more test in it. What's your experience been?

Think he meant it evens out since u atleast need deca for like 12 weeks and it takes 6 to kick in vs npp which u can run a shorter length and get similar results since the ester is smaller and it kicks in fairly quickly


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