Keep getting pip really bad

[justlikemusic]

Bros I keep getting pip really bad. I think it might be from moving the needle too much when I pin? Glute shots seem to be a bit harder now to stretch around lol

I was pinning 1ml pharma Bayer primoteston and everytime I seem to get pic with that. Then I thought I would get a nurse to give me a delt shot so I could see how it was done and then all that happened was I could feel the gear going down my arm and my bicep area got all red and inflamed and I think maybe infected because there was a hard lump but I went on antibiotics for about 4 days and that cleared it up. I'm pretty sure that the nurse went in way too deep.

Then a week ago I pinned 1ml ugl (sponsor here - gear reported "no pip") test 450 and 0.5ml npp with a 23G and pip was super bad, coming on about 24-30hrs post injection. Three days ago I pinned 1.5ml npp and 0.5ml test 450 with a 21G and that cheek is less sore than the one from a week ago. I could see that the npp seemed to be a lot lighter compared to the thicker test oil. It was the first time using something bigger than a 23G and I tell you I felt the difference!

Now I need to pin test today to really start my very short cycle properly from TRT and I am just in a bad mindset at the moment. I take my time to inject it also. Whereas the nurse visit I was just slammed with 1ml through a 21G. I had it planned better than this but I think I'll pass on short esters next time lol

After injection I now use a microwavable heat pack and then sit that on there for about 5 minutes but not on too hot. And then most times I will move around a little bit and then after about half an hour I will do some form of activity to get the blood flowing in that region. Whether I do that or not I don't think I have found much difference.

I have quite big quads so the thing that makes sense to me would be just to pin my quad and see how I go with that.

Any advice?

[justlikemusic]

Also last cycle was about 8+ months ago so maybe they have gone back to virgin muscles? Lol

So I tried injecting my quad and about 80% of the way down with a 23G 1.25" I got a nerve... Wow there's no mistaking that. So i just pinned 1ml test 450 and 0.5ml npp in my left glute. I did notice that my but has got fatter since the last cycle so maybe I wasn't pinning deep enough before so this time I made sure that pin was the whole way down. I'll post up pip feedback tomorrow

[TrenGuy]

Test 450 will sting bro. Maybe do two .5ml shots rather than 1ml.

[benlash74]

Could be the type of oil. Is it different than any other time? Supertest 450 hurts but test e or c 450 should be fairly painless. Try to determine if something is different. Oils, different brand of pins. It sounds like the type of oil to me. I know how frustrating it can be dreading your next pin because of pip.
You could try 31g slin pins on your shoulders and pecs.

[aussiemutant]

Reducing pip.

• Heat oil to above room temp
• Do not wiggle needle, keep steady
• Stick to oils 300mg or less, short esters= more pip
• Water based hurt real bad
• Massage area and move it around
• Dilute oil
• Inject oils slowly

[TrenGuy]

Could be the type of oil. Is it different than any other time? Supertest 450 hurts but test e or c 450 should be fairly painless. Try to determine if something is different. Oils, different brand of pins. It sounds like the type of oil to me. I know how frustrating it can be dreading your next pin because of pip.
You could try 31g slin pins on your shoulders and pecs.

Pretty sure he's using a super test/test blend.

[Electromass]

Reducing pip.

• Heat oil to above room temp
• Do not wiggle needle, keep steady
• Stick to oils 300mg or less, short esters= more pip
• Water based hurt real bad
• Massage area and move it around
• Dilute oil
• Inject oils slowly

^^^^^this^^^^^
I use a heating pad. Especially for the test 450. Just load your pin(s), and lay them in the pad on high for several minutes.

[justlikemusic]

Thanks for the tips guys, I'm doing alot of that stuff... I never use to get pip like this. I figured the pharmacy prescription Bayer primoteston 1ml injection would be good and this was what I was getting pip with in the first instance which made me say fuck it and start a cycle.because alphabeasts gear here is always good. I think I got a shit batch of pharmacy primoteston with a higher ba amount (does that happen?)

I thought the little bit of test diluted with npp wouldn't hurt as much. I'll order some test cypionate (and deca, and see how that goes.).

I'm scared of injecting other sites now after hitting a nerve in thigh today. Leg feels fine as I pulled out straight away as I felt it and leg went twitch. Just went with glute and smashed in 1ml test 450/0.5ml npp. I was going from 250 mg e10d to 350mg a week (but 1ml test 450pw for some weekend prop) for only four weeks as I have to come back on trt dose soon. Maybe shoulders are the go next.

[mychdz]

Like you said above. It might be due (in part) to moving and wiggling the needle around when ur pinning. I notice on pins that I can’t have total stability on and shake while pinning end up leaving me some pip. Other shots I pin with little to no movement leave me with zero pip. But I’ve had occurrences where I believed it to be the actual carrier oil used in the bottle.
Also mentioned above. That much in one pin might also be the issue.


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[Diesel1965]

Reducing pip.

• Heat oil to above room temp
• Do not wiggle needle, keep steady
• Stick to oils 300mg or less, short esters= more pip
• Water based hurt real bad
• Massage area and move it around
• Dilute oil
• Inject oils slowly

Sound advice right here fellaz