Thread: using anabolic steroids without hpta shutdown

So if I read this right, it’s being claimed that some compounds ‘suppress’ while others ‘shutdown.’ Meaning that the ones that shutdown you down can only be used for so long and then you’ll have to come off due to the receptors they take up. Whereas the others suppress you meaning it’s not as hard as a shutdown, however your natural T production is still suppressed so it’s a ‘lighter’ shutdown. At least that’s how I interpret that.

And from that; as X mentioned thinking outside the box, it could be theorized that after a blast cycle while you’re on trt you could run a lighter compound like primo or eq at a low dose of 200mg per week with whatever trt dose is being taken and be ok while still reaping some lean mass gains due to the synergy of the compounds being used. But then you’d have to question is it worth it because most say 200mg of primo or eq is useless. However how many people have actually run a trt dose of test or just cruised on test while running a low dose of eq or primo at 200mg week for 8-10 weeks?

I guess without any experimentation we will never know. But definitely some good food for thought. Not saying year round cycles is the way to go. But to clarify what I’m hypothesizing would be in between blasts, while cruising on test, running a mild compound at 200mg per week since they’re so mild in comparison to other compounds. And since you’re already on test there’s no need to worry about the suppression so granted diet and training are spot on there could be some decent lean mass gains. Nothing astronomical but a 3-5lbs lean muscle gain over the course of 2-3 months would be solid especially while on cruise.


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Originally Posted by xlr8mechanism

i would like to try cycles to see how it compares but i say fuck it all as long as you have a supply of hcg . what i realy would like to know is how to keep the recptors upregulated and stimulated round the year

To find that out would be the golden ticket my friend


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Originally Posted by babybull34

Many successfully use this protocol, myself included years ago before my surgeries. Now that I am getting back into the swing of things and focusing on recomping, I am going to be doing the same. I highly recommend Primo as I have had great experiences and results from it for this. Remember in the Primo brewing thread, Prime, that Ski also said he had successfully done this protocol with low doses of Deca and Mast. Mast fits into this posts theories by being only slightly-suppressive and freeing up natural test but Deca, according to this completely shuts one down. Yet, Ski said he had great results with low dose Deca on a cruise with TRT. Could be subjective or it could be that this article is on to something but not fully grasping all the variables. Bottom line, we will never know for sure without further detailed clinic trials. For now, we must depend on anecdotal and subjective information. This is why BOP is so invaluable for all of us, its a place to exchange info, ideas, and help each other. It's the best we have. Without question though, the protocol works, Prime.

Very true BB, and again I agree with the thought process behind this protocol. So I was more so playing devils advocate and just proposing the other train of thought. However like I said based off of what you’ve said as well as Ski stemming from your experiences it really connects the dots and confirms what I was hypothesizing. So thank you for the clarity and insight. I truly appreciate that man!


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